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    • BrunoHB Offline
      BrunoH Gold Members @Mitch9
      last edited by

      @Mitch9 the missing features (sleep stages, nap detection) are licensed sw from a 3rd party. They might be introduced to Vertical later on, but no promises yet. This was discussed in another thread.

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      • renton82R Offline
        renton82 Platinum Member @BrunoH
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        @BrunoH I didn’t noticed it since this morning. where I can find that thread?

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        • BrunoHB Offline
          BrunoH Gold Members @renton82
          last edited by

          @renton82 I think it was this one:

          https://forum.suunto.com/post/131343

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          • DrSilverthornD Offline
            DrSilverthorn @DrSilverthorn
            last edited by DrSilverthorn

            After turning off the movement reminder, sleep tracking worked for me for the first time last night. And it was spot on. Will have to see what the future holds.

            Update: That was the one and only night that it worked. Since then, many nights have no sleep recorded at all. I am a restless sleeper, and tend to wake every 90 minutes or so - but sometimes not.

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            • peegeeP Offline
              peegee @RightNow
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              @RightNow yes i did but I feel like I’m changing physiology to suit technology, shouldn’t technology serve physiology?

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              • peegeeP Offline
                peegee @Guest
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                @tomasbartko me neither… wonder why

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                • peegeeP Offline
                  peegee @Patrick Löffler 0
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                  @Patrick-Löffler-0 I haven’t had the pleasure of getting reminded to stand up… looking forward for a surprise future reminder

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                  • peegeeP Offline
                    peegee @gone troppo
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                    @gone-troppo super bizarre! last night I got a better sleep reading than the previous ones but still over an hour less than the actual sleep duration.
                    I’m going to keep on tracking… hoping for reliable results

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                    Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                    Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                    • EgikaE Offline
                      Egika Platinum Member
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                      The stand up reminder is triggered if you do less than 40 steps in a period of 2h.
                      If you then do move more, you are awarded (see below).
                      As Vertical step counter is pretty sensitive, it is probably counting more than those 40…
                      I have received the reminder a couple of times with Suunto Race.
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                      • babychaiB Offline
                        babychai Silver Members
                        last edited by babychai

                        @Egika
                        Today i received Stand up reminder after i sit for 2 hours. Is it remind every 2 hours if less than 40 steps for the next 2 hours?

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                        • Patrick Löffler 0P Offline
                          Patrick Löffler 0 Bronze Member @Egika
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                          @Egika Thanks for the pictures of the move alert. 40 steps in 2 hours is really not a lot. That’s probably the personal reason for me why I never get it.

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                          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @peegee
                            last edited by

                            @peegee said in Disappointing Sleep tracking after new update:

                            @gone-troppo super bizarre! last night I got a better sleep reading than the previous ones but still over an hour less than the actual sleep duration.
                            I’m going to keep on tracking… hoping for reliable results

                            This happens to me as well. Sometimes sleep is perfect, it was last night and sometimes the watch states I am awake for 2h and I was not. It may be that I move around more during my sleep than most. I think the tracking will be improved. However, I have seen that the new firmware is far better than just a couple test versions prior. Sleep tracking is likely very difficult and I listen more to how I feel than what my watch tells me.

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                            • peegeeP Offline
                              peegee @peegee
                              last edited by

                              @peegee
                              Dissapointed again with 3 1/2h less sleep, after raising rest heart rate by 15 bpm… didn’t do any good at all😟

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                              Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
                              Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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                              • Stefan KerstingS Offline
                                Stefan Kersting
                                last edited by

                                if you want an evaluation of how good sleep tracking works I think you have to compare the watch tracking when sleeping in a sleeping lab. Even if we are sleeping we are moving a lot. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Some times we register at we have moved a lot, sometimes not. But the watch does 😉 so it would be interesting to compare the tracking of the watch with a camera recording of the sleep 😉

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                                • AnonVerticalOwnerA Offline
                                  AnonVerticalOwner @peegee
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                                  Just adding my voice to the mix. Sleep tracking lost all accuracy after the update here too. The last three days read 12h, 2:23h, and 1:19h, while it should’ve read something like 5:30h, 7h, and 5:30h. It’s not just slightly off and balancing out; it is very far off.

                                  I love the UI/nav changes and the additional bits, but would also love to keep the basics 😅

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                                  • L Offline
                                    Likarnik Bronze Member
                                    last edited by

                                    I find no difference in sleep times/awake times before/after update. Only thing I notice is high resources (before update, I was almost never above 90%, now it’s the opposite)

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                                    • Stefan KerstingS Offline
                                      Stefan Kersting @Likarnik
                                      last edited by

                                      @Likarnik same here. Sleep tracking works fine for me. And I see too that I have up to 100 % ressources in the morning. But I noticed that I am not stressed at all. Maybe the stress will be tracked when I had 14 days with HRV tracking?

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                                      • L Offline
                                        Likarnik Bronze Member @Stefan Kersting
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                                        @Stefan-Kersting I guess we are not stressed anymore because update is finally here 😄

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                                        • Stefan KerstingS Offline
                                          Stefan Kersting @Likarnik
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                                          @Likarnik haha that’s right

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                                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                                            if you have sleep tracking problems, try to enable dnd just in case…

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