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    false Bronze Member @Mitch9
    last edited by 1 Nov 2023, 10:12

    @Mitch9 Absolutely. How it could be escalated to devs? Mb with upvotes?

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      Egika Platinum Member @false
      last edited by 1 Nov 2023, 14:25

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        false Bronze Member @Egika
        last edited by 2 Nov 2023, 12:52

        @Egika thanks. Hope it works

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          Raimo Järvi
          last edited by 16 Nov 2023, 12:54

          We have published updated Manual Intervals apps, this should be fixed now. Thank you for reporting the issue.

          Pragmatic Programmer

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            false Bronze Member @Raimo Järvi
            last edited by 16 Nov 2023, 13:49

            @Raimo-Järvi Thank you, too, for helping!

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              false Bronze Member @Raimo Järvi
              last edited by 18 Nov 2023, 12:44

              @Raimo-Järvi Hi again!

              Today I did a training session with intervals.

              Pace counting is fixed and it’s great, thanks! But now, lower button not only starts an interval but marks the lap. Which is a bit confusing because lap data screen hides underneath all the interval metrics for a couple of seconds.

              It seems that it was like this before - while intervals screen is chosen the lower button is responsible only for start/end interval and while the primary screen is chosen this button is responsible for marking the laps

              Have a look please

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                Raimo Järvi @false
                last edited by 23 Nov 2023, 09:51

                @false Hi, We published a new update, now Manual intervals apps should not show lap popup in Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race or Suunto 9 Peak Pro. Thank you again for the feedback.

                Pragmatic Programmer

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                  mcindr @Raimo Järvi
                  last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 12:57

                  @Raimo-Järvi Hello, I will not make new topic for my question and I will ask here. I am using Sprint power for cycling. In summary I can see average max power during sprints. Is it any reason for this? I think, much better is see avarege power during all sprint, not maximal power. Thank you for your answer!

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                    false Bronze Member @Raimo Järvi
                    last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 19:17

                    @Raimo-Järvi said in Manual intervals - pace:

                    @false Hi, We published a new update, now Manual intervals apps should not show lap popup in Suunto Vertical, Suunto Race or Suunto 9 Peak Pro. Thank you again for the feedback.

                    Good job. Thanks a lot!

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                      Raimo Järvi @mcindr
                      last edited by 28 Nov 2023, 21:26

                      @mcindr said in Manual intervals - pace:

                      I am using Sprint power for cycling. In summary I can see average max power during sprints. Is it any reason for this? I think, much better is see avarege power during all sprint, not maximal power. Thank you for your answer!

                      I’m not really an expert, but I think the idea has been that if you aim for maximal power or pace, you’re interested in the maximum power or pace value. I think for power you can also see max and average values for each sprint in manual laps table.

                      Pragmatic Programmer

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                        mcindr @Raimo Järvi
                        last edited by 29 Nov 2023, 08:20

                        @Raimo-Järvi Thank you for quickly answer. If I have in my training for example 8x 1minute sprint at 350 watt, than is for me important to see, that I rode 8 minutes in avarege 349 watt. If I make during any of sprints few seconds peak at 500 watt, than I see that my avarege max power was 400 watt and that told me nothing. Becose of this I wrote my question.
                        But now I understand what you told and you are right, for another user could be this maximum value interesting as well.

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                          michel Oude Voshaar @Raimo Järvi
                          last edited by 4 Dec 2023, 14:24

                          @Raimo-Järvi Hi I used the manual interval app today and i had the lap popup I have a
                          5 peak. App is from 23/11. Is this known? Thanks for you’re reply

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                            Raimo Järvi @michel Oude Voshaar
                            last edited by 4 Dec 2023, 16:39

                            @michel-Oude-Voshaar Unfortunately it’s not possible to hide the lap popup in Suunto 5 Peak, because it has older software that doesn’t support hiding the popup.

                            Pragmatic Programmer

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                              false Bronze Member @Raimo Järvi
                              last edited by 5 Mar 2024, 09:30

                              @Raimo-Järvi

                              Hello! One more report:

                              When the end of manual interval matches autolap pop up it works like lap button and splits the whole exercise into parts. Which makes impossible to analyze intervals in 3rd party apps like TP or strava etc.

                              TP screen
                              Strava screen

                              TP Graph

                              Suunto App Intervals

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                                false Bronze Member @false
                                last edited by 6 Mar 2024, 20:25

                                Um, seems that the app is broken…again

                                With what I’ve faced today:

                                Before the start of my run I’ve turned on manual intervals. After completing warmup kilometres I pushed lap button while I was on the primary screen but instead of expected typical lap pop-up I got manual interval start. During my interval session once I saw lap end pop-up after I pushed manual interval end (but it ended an interval anyway), I don’t know why this happened.

                                After I synced my run to 3rd party app I haven’t noticed any intervals I did instead of the ones interpreted as lap ends.

                                strava

                                training peaks

                                Also I don’t have explanation where did Strava get this 11" segment as well as I don’t understand where did TP get laps number 2 and 3.

                                IMO the lower button should work as start/end of an interval only when specific suunto app is chosen otherwise it should work as classic lap button.

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                                  Raimo Järvi @false
                                  last edited by 6 Mar 2024, 22:10

                                  @false said in Manual intervals - pace:

                                  IMO the lower button should work as start/end of an interval only when specific suunto app is chosen otherwise it should work as classic lap button.

                                  Yes, this is how it should work. Sounds like there is a problem in the app, we will investigate.

                                  Pragmatic Programmer

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                                    false Bronze Member @Raimo Järvi
                                    last edited by 6 Mar 2024, 22:24

                                    @Raimo-Järvi Thanks! Please, pay attention to another message from me a day ago too.

                                    All reports relate to 9pp with the latest public firmware

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                                      Raimo Järvi @false
                                      last edited by 11 Mar 2024, 11:26

                                      @false said in Manual intervals - pace:

                                      When the end of manual interval matches autolap pop up it works like lap button and splits the whole exercise into parts. Which makes impossible to analyze intervals in 3rd party apps like TP or strava etc.

                                      Do you mean that you pressed lap button when autolap popup was shown? That should currently be same as pressing lap button in any other screen than the Manual intervals SuuntoPlus app screen. I thought the only difference would be that manual lap popup is not shown when in SuuntoPlus app screen. Maybe I’m missing something here, this whole thing is a bit complicated…

                                      Pragmatic Programmer

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                                        false Bronze Member @Raimo Järvi
                                        last edited by 11 Mar 2024, 13:59

                                        @Raimo-Järvi

                                        Do you mean that you pressed lap button when autolap popup was shown?

                                        Yes, exactly. But it all happened when manual intervals app was chosen on the watch. So…as a user I expect that manual lap button works the same when this mode is selected (and that’s important) regardless of whether there is autolap popup or not. Otherwise we can see all this glitches in 3rd party apps.

                                        Of course there is a workaround - first, press middle button to hide pop up and then press the lower button to end an interval. But it’s might be a bit inconvenient when doing all-out intervals

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                                          herlas Silver Members @false
                                          last edited by herlas 14 Mar 2024, 04:30

                                          @false I don’t follow this comment:

                                          “IMO the lower button should work as start/end of an interval only when specific suunto app is chosen otherwise it should work as classic lap button”

                                          Lower button whenever pressed starts a manual lap period.
                                          If you have on any S+ app that uses a lower button press to start recording, then that also gets going.

                                          In my opinion, some of the considerations are:

                                          a) if you’re on the S+ screen while you press the lower button, then the traditional manual lap pop-up shouldn’t be displayed, we should just see the S+ screen moving.

                                          b) if you’re on a regular watch screen, while you press the lower button, the traditional manual lap pop-up should be displayed, also the S+ should start recording in the background.

                                          c) When using S+ apps that rely on manual laps, we should avoid starting our workout with automatic lap on, it just complicates things, I see you seen weird behavior due to this, so if you know you’re going to be manual lapping, avoid setting automatic lap on before starting.

                                          With that said, I’ve seen on my SV that sometimes manual lapping doesn’t work for the first manual app, meaning warmup and first manual lap are shown as a single first lap, this issue is seen with third parties only (TP,RunAlyze,Intervals ICU), meaning SA does show it correctly.

                                          Not sure if anyone has seen this behavior by any chance? known issue?
                                          I’m not sure what’s the trigger for this, I’ve seen this intermittently, when I use S+ that do manual laps, I don’t use automatic lap.

                                          If anyone knows what’s going on please advise !

                                          Example screenshots:

                                          SA showing 2km warmup lap + first manual lap of 3km
                                          SmartSelect_20240313_235018_Suunto.jpg

                                          VS the same workout in Runalyze, showing 5K as the first manual lap

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