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    • Александр ДаниленкоА Offline
      Александр Даниленко @Ze Stuart
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      @Ze-Stuart I had cheap Huawei Watch Fit before. They weren’t perfect in this (for example, they could detect freestyle as butterfly). But they never detect breaststroke or backstroke as freestyle or butterfly, as S9PP do.

      Also, I still see several bugs here, which I described, not related to style or distance detection.

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        AntoniusGaius @Александр Даниленко
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        @Александр-Даниленко Little bit off topic but… Have anyone some thoughts what shows this magic metrics in SUUNTO indoor swim mode? It is present in S 9PP and S5P as well. It shows current interval time and length (not always correctly detected). But this moving star around the display is confusing and I found literally nothing in manual, web, YT or other source. Thanks for info.
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          inkognito Platinum Member @AntoniusGaius
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          @AntoniusGaius https://youtu.be/VVqiBwylhpM?si=H_RC8__C_c9OkLKm

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            AntoniusGaius @inkognito
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            @inkognito I see… Pace clock. Thank you for link. I’m not a swimmer so I have never seen clock like this…

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              Александр Даниленко @AntoniusGaius
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              @AntoniusGaius this is watch like the one, you can find in some swimming pools:
              nastenniy-sekundomer.jpeg

              It is usually used for interval swimming. You can count rest time with it, also manually measure you HR for 10 sec, which is common even now, since HR sensor on the watch isn’t accurate enough, when you are in the water.

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                Александр Даниленко @AntoniusGaius
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                @AntoniusGaius also, what I noticed with this feature in Suunto, when you end your interval, watch show you with a red mark when your interval was ended, so it is easier for you to understand when you have to start your next interval, if you swim something like, for example, 10×100m with 30s rest time.

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                  AntoniusGaius @Александр Даниленко
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                  @Александр-Даниленко Nice. I have noticed that. First useful sugestion. Thanks a lot.
                  I saw this kind of clock yesterday on our local pool where was swiming club training. They have brought it with. They were swiming in waves or something 😁

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                    Александр Даниленко
                    last edited by Александр Даниленко

                    I found one more problem with swimming mode.

                    If I press lap button, but don’t swim, it always show me zero lap time:
                    https://youtube.com/shorts/5i4HtbmXeTE?si=6jEiXovxk6pSy9Pf

                    As you can see from the video, when I switched to other sport (in this case circuit training), it always count it as it should. Moreover, even in “Openwater swim” it works correctly.

                    You may ask why it is matter and why I need this. As I mentioned in this post previous, the watch doesn’t have “drill mode”. So, I would like at least to have possiblity to control my intervals time while doing swimming drills.

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                      Ars Vitae Bronze Member @Александр Даниленко
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                      @Александр-Даниленко The bad news is that I think all Suunto watches have a problem with distance measurement and style recognition in swimming. These algorithms need to by fixed for there to be any point in using them. At the very least, I would like to see the distance counting fixed.

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                        Александр Даниленко @Ars Vitae
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                        @Ars-Vitae for me distance counting works ± good, if I swim normal swimming styles. Sometimes it is off, but usually ok.

                        What problem do you have there?

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                          Ars Vitae Bronze Member @Александр Даниленко
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                          @Александр-Даниленко When you do leg exercises, for example, does it also count the distance well?

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                            Александр Даниленко @Ars Vitae
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                            @Ars-Vitae with leg exercises no, of course. But they are not supposed to do this, since watch expect you to do some hands movements.

                            As far as I know, almost no other watches can count legs, except apple watch. Also, some people say samsung now can, but no official confirmation.

                            Garmin and Huawei, for example, can’t.

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                              Ars Vitae Bronze Member @Александр Даниленко
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                              @Александр-Даниленко The fact that other watches can’t count it doesn’t convince me. The counting is supposedly based on the accelerometer only. Why not add GPS, a bit more battery consumption, but you can measure the interval swum. In other exercises, for example for technique in each style, despite the movement of the hand, once it measures, once it does not.

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                                Александр Даниленко @Ars Vitae
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                                @Ars-Vitae gps won’t work if you do indoor pool swimming.

                                I think the best way to do it like Garmin do and how it actually was in old Suunto watches - to add “drill mode”, which show you time, HR, but then you just write the distance manually.

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                                  Ars Vitae Bronze Member @Александр Даниленко
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                                  @Александр-Даниленко It depends which pool building, in many cases in gyms the gps works just fine. It can be in error to a few metres, in such conditions 25m should be counted as distance covered.
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                                    Александр Даниленко
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                                    Again reporting the same super annoying bug 😡😡😡

                                    If during the swimming I switch to other sport activity (for example, circuit training to track time and HR while doing drills), and then back to pool swimming, the watch doesn’t save my intervals for no reason. Sometimes they do, sometimes not, what make them unreasonable for “multisport” trainings.

                                    Multisport training:
                                    Screenshot_2024-01-30-21-30-58-24.jpg

                                    Last “pool swimming”:
                                    IMG_20240130_213129.jpg

                                    Despite I did intervals and the watch shown me intervals distance and time, they didn’t save them for no reason 🤬

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