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    Heart Rate and Sleep Tracking Settings Need To Be Decoupled

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      TitaniumDave Bronze Member
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      First, I’m new here so forgive me if this topic is covered somewhere else and I just haven’t found it.

      I’ve had the Race since December 19th and there are two things that I think really need improvement. The watch needs to be taking periodic SPO2 and heart rate measurements. It should be a user option to set on/off/automatic and frequency of these readings. Always on should still be an option but I would like more granular control. Also, why does 24/7 heart rate tracking have to be on for sleep tracking to function at all? Shouldn’t sleep tracking control that and take periodic readings the way it does with SPO2? These two settings should be decoupled, the sleep tracker should be able to control heart rate tracking independently

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        isazi Moderator @TitaniumDave
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        @TitaniumDave because the watch cannot detect if you are sleeping if it is not already monitoring you.

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          TitaniumDave Bronze Member @isazi
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          @isazi I understood that the watch detects sleep based on movement, not heart rate.

          From the manual found at https://www.suunto.com/en-us/Support/Product-support/suunto_race/suunto_race/widgets/sleep/

          “All sleep measurements are based on movement only, so they are estimates that may not reflect your actual sleep habits.”

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            isazi Moderator @TitaniumDave
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            @TitaniumDave if it was based on movement only, it would detect sleep when you take it off and put it on your desk.

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              TitaniumDave Bronze Member @isazi
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              @isazi That’s literally what Suunto says in the manual. It’s their literature so I think your argument is for them, not me. For my part, I’ll take the current functionality as a bug in need of fixing based on their literature. I don’t traffic in so-called common sense so I don’t care at all about how we think it should work, I care about how Suunto says it does work. Especially when common-sense makes no sense, as in this case. No, it wouldn’t think you were asleep when you take it off and lay it on your desk because you do occasionally move while you sleep. Other watches actually do function this way and they know the difference between laying on the desk and on the wrist, the Polar M600 for example, used movement based sleep tracking. I wore it for about 5 years with no issues. It never recorded sleep when I was not wearing it, not once. This is ancient technology, well worked out and it’s a shame that Suunto is not getting it right.

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                freeheeler @TitaniumDave
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                @TitaniumDave
                we’ve had movement based sleep tracking and I appreciate the step forward

                living sideways

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                  gilou
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                  je confirme que le suivi de la fréquence cardiaque doit etre activée pour le suivi de sommeil. je n’ai pas eu de suivi cette nuit car j’avais laissé le mode eco activé donc pas de donnée de fréquence cardiaque en aquisition.

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                    wurzlsepp Bronze Member @TitaniumDave
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                    @TitaniumDave just out of curiousity, why do you need periodic SpO2 measurement? 🙂

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                      Anthony Guillemette Bronze Member
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                      To avoid having to activate heart rate monitoring 24/7, wouldn’t it be interesting to be able to manually trigger a sleep monitoring phase? Example: I go to bed at 11 p.m., I go to the sleep menu and trigger “Start sleep tracking” and the watch knows that it can activate HR to track sleep. The same goes for naps which are sometimes not well detected otherwise. It would also preserve the battery by not tracking heart rate all day if the only use is for sleep tracking.

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