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    • MiniForkliftM Offline
      MiniForklift Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
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      @Brad_Olwin said in No information from Suunto Vertical watch when changing direction during navigation:

      @neverhood I turn off turn by turn as I do not need to be notified. I can look at the watch and see the direction I need to go. I do not like having the constant vibration for turns when out on the trails.

      This is what I do to, I don’t have it enabled as I find the alerts distracting and even more so if I’m running in a town or city with numerous turns

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      • R Offline
        Redbird
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        , je ne suis pas le seul à ne pas adhérer avec ce guidage comme telle. Je me sert de la navigation principalement à vélo, j’ai vraiment du mal à suivre un itinéraire "étape par étape " comme il est présenté actuellement. Je n’ai pas toujours la possibilité d’avoir le regard sur le poignet ( montre ) soit pour cause de trafic !! ou encore une descente rapide à vélo, une route ou chemin dégradés mais aussi des manches longue sur les bras en plein hiver donc écran pas lisible directement !!. Un affichage comme il est proposé actuellement 100m avant le carrefour avec une durée de 3 secondes puis plus rien est inapproprié pour une bonne navigation !!! quand je suis dans un carrefour ma vue est en direction de la trajectoire du vélo et non sur l’écran de ma montre pour m’indiquer un changement de direction qui arrivera que bien plus tard !! cela est une question de sécurité et de bon sens pour une pratique à bicyclette … Je suggère à Suunto d’avertir comme actuellement le changement de direction 100m avant mais de laisser l’affichage " étape par étape " jusqu’à la fin ( du changement de direction ou sortie du virage ). Et ainsi avoir la possibilité de visionner en temps réel la direction à suivre avec une vraie certitude !! et sans devoir basculer à chaque fois sur l’écran ( petit poucet ) pour voir si je suis bien sur l’itinéraire .
        Si vous êtes de mon avis faite le savoir ou remonter afin qu’une mise à jour change cela. Merci d’avance …
        J’ai déjà posséder une montre d’une autre marque qui fessait cela très bien et nul besoin d’avoir une cartographie pour bien se diriger.
        Pour toutes les autres fonctions de la montre je suis vraiment satisfait, je remercie encore Suunto, vraiment un très beau produit avec une finition exemplaire et très élégante au poignet Merci

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        • TieutieuT Offline
          Tieutieu Platinum Member @Redbird
          last edited by Tieutieu

          @Redbird : many times discussed. Almost everybody agree that the way it actually works is not the best.
          For now it has not evolved.
          I also use navigation a lot, for biking, hiking.
          Since I use maps with the vertical, I don’t use turn by turn alerts anymore, but I also would be please to see improvements with the way it works.
          the most annoying thing to me is especially the fact that the second alert (which tells the next point) is precisely « hiding map » at the turning point.
          I’d rather have a first alert « y » meters before the turn, and a second « x » seconds (based on speed, so distance would be different depending on which activity you’re practicing) before the turning point, and then have the map displayed when arriving to turn.
          The next turn alert could also be displayed few meter after turning point.
          Or, like you said, having indications as an overlay on map would be awesome.

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          • N Offline
            neverhood
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            Thank you for your answers.
            I’ve only used car navigation so far and it’s probably habits I need to get rid of.

            I have one more question. When I create a route in the Suunto app on my watch, I don’t get any notifications. Is there something I need to do?
            Fortunately, I use plotaroute and then I have notifications, but it is annoying that the Suunto app does not export notifications after synchronising the route with the watch.

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            • Mff73M Offline
              Mff73 @neverhood
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              @neverhood
              The problem is not really the syncing of turns from outside sources to Suuntoapp and the watch, it is the way the watch is managing the notifications : at a turn, there is a special point with indication that there is something to notify. And the watch is warning 100m before it, and nothing else, and then it is focused on the next turn.
              Whatever you can do with plotaroute or komoot or any other routes, if the watch mechanisms are not changed, it will stay the same.

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              • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                Brad_Olwin Moderator @neverhood
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                @neverhood You need to turn on turn by turn, it is not on by default, when creating a route.

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                • AudaxjoeA Offline
                  Audaxjoe @Brad_Olwin
                  last edited by Audaxjoe

                  @Brad_Olwin said in No information from Suunto Vertical watch when changing direction during navigation:

                  @neverhood You need to turn on turn by turn, it is not on by default, when creating a route.

                  I’ve never created a route on Suunto App but via Kamoot turn by turn is the default. Strange it is the opposite 🤷🏻‍♂️
                  I also turn the turn by turn off.

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                  • TieutieuT Offline
                    Tieutieu Platinum Member @Audaxjoe
                    last edited by

                    @Audaxjoe you should try native route creation with SA ! 😊
                    I’ve tried komoot a few times. SA is so much easy to me ! (Except maybe if you are using existing routes in komoot).

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                      Audaxjoe @Tieutieu
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                      @Tieutieu said in No information from Suunto Vertical watch when changing direction during navigation:

                      @Audaxjoe you should try native route creation with SA ! 😊
                      I’ve tried komoot a few times. SA is so much easy to me ! (Except maybe if you are using existing routes in komoot).

                      I think the issue is activity. My main need for a route is cycling, normally in the range of 150-200k. SA isn’t the easiest on a phone for these distances! Or not in my experience anyway 🤣 It could be user error…

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                        Tieutieu Platinum Member @Audaxjoe
                        last edited by Tieutieu

                        @Audaxjoe so for you need I can understand why you use komoot ! (Even if SA works well also for cycling to me 😊 )

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                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Audaxjoe
                          last edited by

                          @Audaxjoe Use a tablet or computer.

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                            MiniForklift Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
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                            @Brad_Olwin said in No information from Suunto Vertical watch when changing direction during navigation:

                            @Audaxjoe Use a tablet or computer.

                            How do you get the SA on your computer? Probably a stupid question but oh well 😊

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                            • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @MiniForklift
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                              @MiniForklift On my Mac SA runs great. On Windows 11 I believe Android apps also run.

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                              • enriqueescomsE Offline
                                enriqueescoms @Brad_Olwin
                                last edited by enriqueescoms

                                @Brad_Olwin I do the same as you, I also turn off turn-by-turn, but I understand that this is not a solution to what the colleague is asking.

                                In the end, as the turn-by-turn works in such an unhelpful way, it ends up being a useless feature. It’s a pity.

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                                  Tieutieu Platinum Member @enriqueescoms
                                  last edited by Tieutieu

                                  @enriqueescoms when I had no maps (with A3p, S9b…), first there was no turn by turn. When it arrived on S9B, I used it but with the same limitation than now.
                                  With the SV and maps, If find it less usefull.
                                  When I still use it, I often remove most turning points, only to keep the key ones on my way (complex crossings for examples…). But I only use it as a warning for map looking !

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                                  • enriqueescomsE Offline
                                    enriqueescoms @Tieutieu
                                    last edited by

                                    @Tieutieu Yes, I do much the same. Maybe if the turn-by-turn worked differently I would use it more. Maybe, I don’t know.

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                                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @enriqueescoms
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                                      @enriqueescoms there is a trade off using on a bike vs. Run. But, I agree it needs improvement.

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