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    szaboat74
    last edited by 28 Mar 2024, 17:36

    Hello Everyone!

    Last week, I bought a Suunto Race watch. I switched from my Garmin Forerunner watch.
    I would like to ask for help regarding the guidance of pre-recorded workouts. I record my workouts in the app. How can I set it up so that my watch alerts me when I deviate from the pace and/or heart rate range recorded in the app? For example, by sound or vibration.
    Thank you in advance for your responses!

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      geolerigolo Bronze Member @szaboat74
      last edited by geolerigolo 28 Mar 2024, 21:20

      @szaboat74 said in structured workut:

      Hello Everyone!

      Last week, I bought a Suunto Race watch. I switched from my Garmin Forerunner watch.
      I would like to ask for help regarding the guidance of pre-recorded workouts. I record my workouts in the app. How can I set it up so that my watch alerts me when I deviate from the pace and/or heart rate range recorded in the app? For example, by sound or vibration.
      Thank you in advance for your responses!

      Unfortunately impossible yet. You can only choose one zone (power, pace or heart rate) (zone 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5) before starting an activity. Which means that you have to look at your watch regularly to see if you’re where you need to be if you have created a structured workout with personalized zones. Moreover if you have “do not disturb” enabled, you won’t have any notification at all, so be sure you disable “do not disturb” if it is enabled.
      I don’t think it will change anytime soon, as it has been asked for quite some time and is still not available.

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        Brad_Olwin Moderator @szaboat74
        last edited by 29 Mar 2024, 02:32

        @szaboat74 you can set a zone alert independently of the structured workout for Pace, HR or power.

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          dimnekand @szaboat74
          last edited by 29 Mar 2024, 05:31

          @szaboat74

          Hello,
          as @szaboat74 says:
          you can set a zone alert independently of the structured workout for Pace, HR or power.
          After that, during your workout (e.g. running), every time you deviate from your range (e.g. HR), the watch will vibrate, will make a sound (beep), and a black arrow in a yellow circle will show you to run
          ‘‘lower’’ (the arrow will pointing down) or ‘‘faster’’ (the arrow will pointing up)
          and every time you get into your range it will only vibrate once.

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            Marius Jacobsen Eggerud Silver Members @szaboat74
            last edited by Marius Jacobsen Eggerud 29 Mar 2024, 07:12

            @szaboat74 lack of this possibility is by far the biggest downside of owning a Suunto watch in my opinion.

            Suunto Ambit 3
            Suunto Spartan Ultra
            Suunto Race Ti

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              fifi13013 @szaboat74
              last edited by 29 Mar 2024, 08:25

              Hello I am also new to Suunto.
              Too bad there is no structured and personalized training, plus a hydration reminder or the ability to deactivate notifications during training would be good too, as would managing a call or setting the buzzer.
              Do you think one day there will be routable cards?

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                isazi Moderator @fifi13013
                last edited by 29 Mar 2024, 09:14

                @fifi13013 there are structured workouts that can be created in the app, plus tens of third-party providers that can push structured workouts to your watch.

                Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                Blog: isazi's home

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                  geolerigolo Bronze Member @dimnekand
                  last edited by geolerigolo 29 Mar 2024, 13:25

                  @dimnekand But only for one predetermined zone as I said above and if you choose a personal range it won’t alert you, so if you want to have a range of 2 zones or want to choose your zones as you want it seems you can’t, and in that case you can follow the structured workout but you won’t get the alerts for out of range zones. You will have to look regularly at the screen to see if you are in the desired zone so kind of half-baked structured workouts.

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                    dimnekand @geolerigolo
                    last edited by 29 Mar 2024, 20:30

                    @geolerigolo
                    Yes, yes, you can.
                    I will try now to upload a video because it’s hard form to explain you by writing.

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                      dimnekand @geolerigolo
                      last edited by 29 Mar 2024, 21:26

                      @geolerigolo
                      Videos are too large and can’t be uploaded.
                      I will try to explain:

                      1. you can set specific HR zones for
                        all activities, see English user guide:
                        Pages 32-33, and then choose the zone
                        alert you want, from activity menu.
                      2. you can set them for a specific activity,
                        e.g. running, as follows:
                        a)from the activity menu scroll down to
                        “intensity zones”
                        b)press the crown, choose HR (pressing
                        the crown again)
                        c)choose “set target zone” pressing the
                        lower button
                        d)scroll down to “edit” and set the upper
                        and lower limits, go back (pressing the
                        down button)
                        e)set the alert for the zone you’ve just edited.
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                        geolerigolo Bronze Member @dimnekand
                        last edited by 29 Mar 2024, 22:14

                        @dimnekand Ok thanks I didn’t know. But if I do that will it modify my usual HR zones or will it just be for this activity?

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                          dimnekand @geolerigolo
                          last edited by 31 Mar 2024, 08:13

                          @geolerigolo
                          As we said before, (page 32-33),
                          if you follow the path:
                          settings>training>intensity zones,
                          you will see on your watch screen
                          two choices:

                          1. Default HR zones for all sports
                            and
                          2. Advance zones.
                            Activity specific zones
                            a)If you change (… for all sports) it will modify every activity.
                            b) if you go to second choice (… advance zones)
                            you will see two choices:
                            for running and cycling, let’s talk about running.
                            Going into the next menu, you will see a ‘soft button’ that activates the zones settings.
                            After that, everything about running “-and only running-”
                            (treadmill, road running, trail running etc), will have your modified zones.
                            Of course, you can deactivate them (soft button) any time
                            Nevertheless, if you modify (… for all sports) and you decide to change them again on your usual zones, scroll down to the menu (zones screen) and press reset.
                            It will be reset to your default values (according your age, etc).
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                            geolerigolo Bronze Member @dimnekand
                            last edited by 31 Mar 2024, 20:05

                            @dimnekand Ok thanks, this way I can use a larger zone to include all the zones I want in one zone, even though it is not as straight forward as other brands 🙂

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                              wmichi @geolerigolo
                              last edited by 31 Mar 2024, 20:33

                              @geolerigolo This is just a workaround. All changes to the heart rate zones are also reflected in SA after syncing the workout. You will see there your changed zones instead of your real (correct) heart rate zones. If you mess around with the heart rate zones it will also have consequences for the calculated TSS (depending on what zones you change).

                              Training for one hour at LTHR should give you 100 TSS. As far as I know, LTHR should be the upper limit of zone 4. If you change the upper limit of Z4 for your workout, TSS will be wrong. This has also consequences for ATL/CTL/TSB (if you do that frequently).

                              So I would say, messing around with the zones just to get those alerts, is a bad idea.

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                                geolerigolo Bronze Member @wmichi
                                last edited by geolerigolo 31 Mar 2024, 21:15

                                @wmichi Yeah, seen with this angle it is less attractive^^
                                I experienced a false type of effort once because I hadn’t change my power zones to the new numbers. Spent a lot of time in zones 1-2 HR, but my power zones were zones 3-4 and so I got aerobic/anaerobic run as a type of workout instead of aerobic.

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