Still no proper BT sensor management with latest update .... :(

[Olaf Gottschalk]

Re: What are the chances that proper Bluetooth accessory management is added to the Race?

The trouble with the miserable BT sensor “management” is now getting really, really painful.
My latest road bike has a built-in power meter - but it is only one-sided, so I still want to use my Wahoo Speedplay Dual side pedals.

Now: how on earth do I deliberately select the correct sensor to pair?
I see no way to make sure the right one is connected - neither does it SAY which one is connected nor do I get a choice.

And now? What should I do?

[Mads Hintz-Madsen]

@Olaf-Gottschalk if you don’t plan on using the built-in power meter, can you then remove the battery or disable the integrated power meter?

Or simply take the power meter pedals off the bike and move out of BT range from the bike (or wait until the integrated power meter goes to sleep) and then do the pairing with the watch. You anyway only need to do this once if you are only planning on using your power meter pedals.

[Ze Stuart]

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen spot-on technical solution, but @Olaf-Gottschalk’s point stands: the sensor management is abysmal.

Olaf’s point about not being able to pick a sensor is the tip of the iceberg: Suunto’s lack support for how sensors are structured on a bike, specifically speed sensor on the front wheel, and either a discrete cadence sensor on the cranks, or cadence/speed from cranks/pedals is out of date (they believe you’ll have their bike pod, which combines speed and cadence, with two magnets that slip and don’t fit all bikes).

Now, there’s that nice interview in Italian somewhere that says something big is coming for bikes this year (summer firmware?) so maybe cyclists will finally be able to use their Suunto like everyone else - even Apple Watch users - can, but for now, it’s really rather limited.

[FunkyLarma]

@Ze-Stuart think this is the article you mention: https://saketonemo.it/talking-about-suunto-with-suunto/
We can only hope that being a triathlete Markus has more than one bike or power meter and can direct Suunto on how devices work in 2024.
Personally I would also welcome an integration with other platforms if they can not implement. Let me import my Wahoo data like they have done recently with Xiaomi.

[i5boi]

@Ze-Stuart my SRAM AXS Force d2 does power & cadence just fine although I do wish power was both sided. I guess it’s just an average as the axs is dual sided, not the one crank arm method.

Do we think dual sided power will come in a future update? This would address any of my cycling needs as I don’t need the always on maps for navigation.

[Ze Stuart]

@FunkyLarma that’s the article, agree on all points.

[Durri]

@Olaf-Gottschalk no problem for me, I have a Wahoo cadence sensor and a Polar H10️

[Likarnik]

How to know where does cadence data come from? I have Suunto bike pod for many years now and also Favero dual sided power meter. I had cadence via bike pod before, but when I went on vacation an rented a bike, I took my pedals with me. And I had cadence data for all my rides with PM. Does PM override bike pod cadence? I’m thinking about ditching my bike pod…

[Mads Hintz-Madsen]

@Likarnik the Assioma pedals provide cadence data to the Suunto watch along with the power data as you noticed. So I think that you can safely ditch Suunto’s bike pod.

Regarding which cadence data gets recorded by the watch if you have both power meter pedals and the bike pod paired, I have no idea.

[ChrisA]

@FunkyLarma said in Still no proper BT sensor management with latest update .... :

Let me import my Wahoo data like they have done recently with Xiaomi.

Getting more such integrations is something I really think could Suunto set apart from other companies. I would love to see integration of e.g. Oura’s sleepdata from their rings, so you could just wear the ring at night and not the watch (besides the fact, that they’re both located in Finland )

[seanvk]

There have been a lot of requests for support for multiple sensors with better management. I have no idea when they will ever support this but it is really disappointing.

https://forum.suunto.com/topic/6188/can-i-connect-multiple-sensors?_=1712202347230

[Olaf Gottschalk]

@Mads-Hintz-Madsen no, I have to do this over and over again as I already have to unpair and pair again when using the Kickr bike.
And no - removing the battery is not an option as I want both meters to work in order to compare them by recording one with an app and one with the Race.

This whole situation is a mess and totally unworthy of the otherwise good hardware of the Race.

[Olaf Gottschalk]

@Durri you did understand my post? If you only have ONE sensor per type, of course you don’t have a problem.

My setup:
Kickr bike (power, cadence & speed)

Bike 1 with Wahoo Speedplay power meters, Bontrager Speed&Cadence sensor

Bike 2 with SRAM Axis power meter and Wahoo speed sensor

Now, how do you technically “manage” these sensors?

Even worse: when I forget to unpair&pair again at home and my GF is already on her Kickr setup, I cannot pair my bike as there already is more than one sensor in the room sending information and because you do not see which one the Race connects to, you are f***ed.

[Brad_Olwin]

@Olaf-Gottschalk As others have said, this has been an issue raised several times. I used to bike race but no longer, I had three bikes and this would be a real issue for me as well. We can only hope that it is something in progress. I understand your frustration.