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    Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update

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    • CharlesC Offline
      Charles Bronze Member
      last edited by

      Hey guys, after a month of having a non-able-to-sync watch, I’ve decided to send it back for a warranty exchange/repair.
      I’ll let you know how the procedure is going 😉

      Cheers

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        ortles Silver Members @Charles
        last edited by ortles

        @Charles

        Yeah keep us updated, that would be great 👍

        Weren‘t they looking for one of the non working watches here? I have in mind that you offered to send yours.

        Does anybody of you know if this has led to any specific consequences?

        I am still keeping my watch (oh my god, I must be a real suunto fan then ;-)), but have to admit that I am close to give up…

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          Charles Bronze Member @ortles
          last edited by

          @ortles
          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos asked for my logs, email and phone so that the repair team from suunto know that my watch is affected.

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          • Stefano M64S Online
            Stefano M64 Silver Members
            last edited by Stefano M64

            Yesterday, I had the idea to delete all the activities but the last one (all already synced to the SA) from the watch (Race), to check if the sync issue could be caused by the old activities stored in the watch and recorded before the firmware update (2.33.12). After deleting, the “basic syncing” (that is: gps performance, weather, etc … without new activities) performed without problems. This morning I recorded a short activity and the sync performed again with no problem. Then, I recorded another short activity and the sync was OK again.
            Before deleting the old activities (from the watch) I had problem also with the “basic syncing”: the BT connection dropped often and sync restarted several times before completing the operation.

            Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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              rokkenrolli @Stefano M64
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              @Stefano-M64

              Interested to see how it continues for you, although I’m not confident based on past experiences. Many people here, including myself, have done a hard reset which wipes everything off the watch. It has however not fixed the sync issues.

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              • Stefano M64S Online
                Stefano M64 Silver Members @rokkenrolli
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                @rokkenrolli

                I don’t know how SA manages the sync process, however, other synching programs, as for example FreeFileSync, or cloud-based ones, as Google Drive, Dropbox, Owncloud, etc …, create and update an hidden database file that records the status of the synching process, if that file at same point became corrupt the whole synching process can be affected, because there are conflicts between the database copies on the client and on the server.
                IF this is the case (I’m guessing), maybe that the hard reset by itself isn’t able to solve such conflict(s), since SA should be able repair/re-create the database and realign the activities.

                Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                • Stefano M64S Online
                  Stefano M64 Silver Members
                  last edited by

                  Made another Hiking activity, for about 30 minutes, while driving back home from work (Race advised me about anomalous high speed 😁 ).
                  Then synced again without problem in few seconds.
                  Let’s see if tomorrow if things continue to be OK

                  Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                    Lukáš Blažek @Stefano M64
                    last edited by

                    @Stefano-M64 good to know. Unfortunately I have still the same problem - brand new watches, without any old activities as you mentioned 😔. Three times hard reset + xxx times BT connection reset - unpairing - new pairing… I don’t know

                    Suunto Core All Black
                    Suunto 5 All Black
                    Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal

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                    • Stefano M64S Online
                      Stefano M64 Silver Members @Lukáš Blažek
                      last edited by Stefano M64

                      @Lukáš-Blažek said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:

                      sadly the favorable planets alignment lasted just one day, this morning I recorded a 1,5 hour exercise and the sync hanged again, only deleting all the recent activities stored in the watch let the sync worked properly.

                      Suunto Vector . Vector HR . Core . Race & Race S

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                      • Lukáš BlažekL Offline
                        Lukáš Blažek @Stefano M64
                        last edited by

                        @Stefano-M64 yesterday a did last big reset ( read factory) then I pair it with app again. After that I recorded 1h:45min of walking. It will be almost 24 hours - still without sync. I will wait until next Monday then I will send my watch for complaints… I will be switched closer to another brand 😔

                        Suunto Core All Black
                        Suunto 5 All Black
                        Suunto Race Titanium Charcoal

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                          ortles Silver Members
                          last edited by ortles

                          Is there any ETB = estimated time of bugfixing?

                          Until now we only have the information that it’s ‚very difficult‘.

                          It would be much easier to wait if there would be some kind of perspective.

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                          • EzioAuditoreE Offline
                            EzioAuditore Gold Members @ortles
                            last edited by

                            @ortles Just out of curiosity… have you guys tried say syncing through VPN? Maybe there is some weird distributed system thing going on.

                            Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
                            Suunto Wing

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                              denis_barberot @Charles
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                              @Charles Hi, can you explain us how you did to send it back the watch ?

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                                inkognito Platinum Member @EzioAuditore
                                last edited by

                                @EzioAuditore The synchronization of activity data from the watch to the application does not rely on an internet connection. It operates smoothly, even if your phone is in airplane mode with BT enabled. If activities make it to the app, they are seamlessly synced to the cloud. Therefore, I don’t believe VPN would help 😕

                                SV: fingers crossed :D
                                S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
                                Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
                                Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto!

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                                • EzioAuditoreE Offline
                                  EzioAuditore Gold Members @inkognito
                                  last edited by

                                  @inkognito You’re right. I thought it’s not syncing to the servers. My bad.

                                  Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
                                  Suunto Wing

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                                  • CharlesC Offline
                                    Charles Bronze Member @denis_barberot
                                    last edited by

                                    @denis_barberot
                                    Sure, just follow the steps indicated here
                                    https://www.suunto.com/fr-fr/Assistance/Repair-services/Demande-de-reparation-en-ligne/

                                    To keep you updated, i’ve send my a week ago, they received it monday and the repair center sent me a new one.
                                    Apparently, they’ve diagnosed a problem with the Bluetooth unit. @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos will keep us updated.

                                    Cheers

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                                      ortles Silver Members @Charles
                                      last edited by ortles

                                      @Charles said in Unable to connect / sync vertical with suunto app since last update:

                                      Apparently, they’ve diagnosed a problem with the Bluetooth unit. @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos will keep us updated.

                                      Sounds like the theory could be right that firmware does not work properly with different versions of the individual hardware. This would perfectly make sense.

                                      And it seems that there might be some progress regarding the overall issue if I interpret you correctly.

                                      Would be interesting to hear more about that.

                                      Thanks for the update - hope that your new watch now works as it should! Keep us posted 🙂

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                                        Charles Bronze Member @ortles
                                        last edited by

                                        @ortles I haven’t received my new watch yet ! I’ll keep you posted.

                                        Apparently my watch really helped to understand the problem ! Hope a fix will happen soon.
                                        I don’t have any further informations about the delay and the exact cause of the problem.
                                        Cheers

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                                          Charles Bronze Member @Charles
                                          last edited by

                                          Hey guys,

                                          I’ve tested my new watch sent by the suunto repair center, the sync works perfectly !

                                          For those with the sync problem I advise you to do the same. You will get a brand new watch (and I even got some complimentary new wrist band!).

                                          Cheers

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                                            ortles Silver Members @Charles
                                            last edited by ortles

                                            @Charles

                                            Glad you have a working watch now - thanks for the update!

                                            IMHO it would be nontheless helpful to have some (more or less) official information what the problem really is about and how we can deal with it as costumers.

                                            It’s not guaranteed that the outcome is always the same as in your case when you send the watch in (e. g. you might get a new watch which has the same problem as these are obviously still sold etc. / if they are not aware of the problem in the specific case, they might send your watch back but the problem isn’t really solved).

                                            It’s still a little bit confusing that the problem is not only hardware related but has something to do with the update.

                                            So a (more or less) official information what we should do would be good!

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