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      maszop Bronze Member @Mff73
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      @Mff73 If it works with microphones, maybe it will also be suitable for watches 😁

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      • TieutieuT Offline
        Tieutieu Platinum Member
        last edited by Tieutieu

        Strange about wind effect : I have used my vertical several times in very windy conditions and never observed such elevation errors.

        (I didn’t know where to put this so I put it here : I wanted to notice that SV works awesomely well under clothes/gloves, even in very cold weather with big gloves + 3 layers => that’s a point I wanted to notice. My A3P and my S9b were very poor in this case with elevations errors and GPS accuracy loss).

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          maszop Bronze Member @Tieutieu
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          @Tieutieu Vertical and the previously used 9PP measure point height very accurately. No issues with that.
          The problem is with these spikes visible on the chart - sudden, small, but very frequent changes in elevation.

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            Tieutieu Platinum Member @maszop
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            @maszop I had perfectly understood that issue => never had such behaviour even in very windy conditions

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              Mff73 @maszop
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              @maszop
              and the last solution would be also to consider your watch as faulty.
              it is not nice, but sometimes it may happen.
              years ago i had issues with my spartan ultra, searching for all possible solutions about baro issues and ascent/descent.
              RMA one day, and baro sensor was faulty : new watch never had any issues.
              (not related to wind though).

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                maszop Bronze Member @Mff73
                last edited by

                @Mff73 Two watches are faulty?
                9PP and Vertical, maybe, but very hard to believe.
                Maybe I can test another Vertical very soon.

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                • surfboomerangS Offline
                  surfboomerang
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                  Back in the days when I still owned a S9B, altitude was still recorded for windsurfing activities. The altiude graph went all over the place and I ended up with hundereds of meters of ascend and descend values. The graph above looks very clean. Nothing like the graphs I saw when it was influenced by the wind.
                  Maybe the algorithm changed over the years, but I don’t know if wind is the issue this time.

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                    maszop Bronze Member @surfboomerang
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                    @surfboomerang Something has changed because my problems started with 9 Peak Pro. Previously, in the case of Traverse and 9 Baro, despite much lower accuracy, there was no such disaster.

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                      r00bbo
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                      Hi!
                      I have encountered the same issue. On an extremely windy day, my 9 Peak Pro reported an elevation of 2400m when the hike (validated with my partner’s Garmin) was around 1100m.
                      This is the first time I have experienced such a disparity, hiking or cycling.

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                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @r00bbo
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                        @r00bbo said in Suunto vertical ascent/ descent totally incorrect:

                        Hi!
                        I have encountered the same issue. On an extremely windy day, my 9 Peak Pro reported an elevation of 2400m when the hike (validated with my partner’s Garmin) was around 1100m.
                        This is the first time I have experienced such a disparity, hiking or cycling.

                        https://forum.suunto.com/topic/9960/more-faq?_=1719606955631

                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                        • Archi MendelA Offline
                          Archi Mendel
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                          Just had a hike with a 1000-meter ascend, and my Suunto Vertical logged 1950 meters of altitude gain. It was quite windy, so this might be the reason. What I don’t get is: wind is a problem + covered by clothing is a problem.

                          How does Suunto expect me to solve this problem if both requirements—to hide from the wind and not cover with clothing—are conflicting?

                          I’m disappointed, to say the least. I would rather use GPS-based altitude gain data than the one Suunto provides. This 2x altitude gain is simply not usable—it messes my records and the track that I publish.

                          There are quite a few posts with a similar problem in this forum. Is Suunto planning to introduce any firmware update that, maybe, will use GPS and barometer data to somehow detect anomaly data?

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                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Archi Mendel
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                            @Archi-Mendel I have reported this to Suunto and provided extensive logs and files. Others have contributed as well. I am confident they are working on some sort of solution. Several sites will correct your data and you can manually change the elevation gain/loss in SA.

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                            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                              I think it’s not a real problem the wind or the jacket if the sensor whole is stress free for the vertical specifically. Stress free = no sweat, water, or debris ie dirt etc inside the sensor.

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                                thanasis Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto vertical ascent/ descent totally incorrect:

                                I think it’s not a real problem the wind or the jacket if the sensor whole is stress free for the vertical specifically. Stress free = no sweat, water, or debris ie dirt etc inside the sensor.

                                i once submerged the watch into the river while hiking and changed the ancent by 1500Meters. it was exceptional for strava that i ā€œmanagedā€ such a a fast ascent -descent

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