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Maps are sluggish and have low update frequency

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    Egika Platinum Member @Stanislav Damjanov
    last edited by 18 Sept 2024, 12:06

    @Stanislav-Damjanov thank you very much!
    Yes, the logs should be sent no more than a few hours after something was happening.
    If possible you could possibly even take a video from the effect.

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      Stanislav Damjanov @Egika
      last edited by 18 Sept 2024, 12:10

      @Egika I will as soon as I finish my next hike, and I will make video how the watch behaves.

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        Stanislav Damjanov
        last edited by 18 Sept 2024, 17:34

        I just finished hike. This time activity was “Hiking”, route was made in Suunto app and sent to watch, with turn by turn navigtion option selected. Navigation sometimes didn’t had any delay, and “unlock” usually happened when a 90 degree turn was made, but many times it was 5-6 seconds delay until map started to rotate smoothly. I am uploading logs from the app right now, and I am sending a PM to @Egika.

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          Stanislav Damjanov
          last edited by 20 Sept 2024, 16:08

          Here is the video how it looks like, compass doesn’t detect rotation at all. I talked with @Egika about this, and it seems that it is like that intentionally, compass doesn’t work until I stop moving.

          https://youtu.be/bDwDqwvQ_nc

          I think that compass should detect rotation even when I am moving, can anybody else confirm if that was normal behaviour on previous firmwares?

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            SamuelP Bronze Member @Stanislav Damjanov
            last edited by 20 Sept 2024, 16:18

            @Stanislav-Damjanov
            Normal behavior also on my vertical since i bought it july 2023.

            Personally I like it the way it is right now. It shows me the direction im moving. When i stop the compass takes over smoothly

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              sartoric Moderator
              last edited by sartoric 20 Sept 2024, 16:20

              As already said, while you’re moving direction from gps is used. Compass kicks in while you stop.
              This is a way to preserve battery charge, afair

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                Stanislav Damjanov
                last edited by 20 Sept 2024, 18:03

                @Samuel-Pirttikangas @sartoric Thank you for reply. I understand that it is designed as a feature, but it really looks like a bug in the real world scenario. It would be nice to disable it as an option. Is this the same even in the “Running” activity? For that use case it would be really annoying of you have to stop in order to use compass.

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                  duffman19 @Stanislav Damjanov
                  last edited by 20 Sept 2024, 18:08

                  @Stanislav-Damjanov I see it as a benefit in running activities. With so much arm swing, it would be quite difficult to judge direction of travel if the maps are always rotating. Not to mention battery draw.

                  The behavior is normal and similar to how most other companies handle mapping while moving. It works as I’d expect it to.

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                    Stanislav Damjanov
                    last edited by 20 Sept 2024, 19:57

                    @duffman19 Thank you for clarification. For me, it looks quite strange that I need to make a stop in order for compass to work. But now I know that it isn’t a bug, though I would still like option to turn compass on during movement.

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                      borgein @Egika
                      last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 11:35

                      @Egika said in Maps are sluggish and have low update frequency:

                      @Stanislav-Damjanov said in Maps are sluggish and have low update frequency:

                      Has anyone found solution for this problem? Or, at least reason why it’s happening? I experience slow map movement until I make full 360 degree rotation just like OP stated. After that map “unlocks” smoother performance, only until I start walking or breadcrumb navigation screen shows up again. It’s really frustrating, I had Race S before and this doesn’t seem to be happening on Race S, map performance was always smooth.

                      still very likely magnetic interference…

                      No it is definitely not magnetic interference. This is super easy to re-create. And as is said, this only happens during navigation, not during normal map usage. To me it seems like a bad power savings feature that takes too long to become disabled. I can understand that the update frequency can be lowered while walking and not looking at the watch, but the watch takes too long to “flip back” to full perf mode when raised and used.

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                        Mff73 @borgein
                        last edited by 25 Sept 2024, 12:39

                        @borgein
                        did you read above potential explanation ? map orientation is based on compass when not moving under a specific speed (thus reacting quickly to you moving your wrist around) and map is pointing to movement(gps) direction above this speed --> map is only responsive following your movement direction and position change

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