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New error message "speed is excessive" ?!

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    MRC01 Bronze Member
    last edited by MRC01 10 Nov 2024, 23:52 11 Oct 2024, 23:52

    During my bike ride today, the Suunto Race popped up a modal dialog saying something like “GPS speed is excessive, cancel activity or dismiss”. This happened 4 times within an hour ride which was unnecessary and annoying.

    I’ve never seen this before so I figured it was a new bug in the latest firmware. And the tracking had no apparent glitches in speed or location. But then later I realized that the activity was in “run” mode by mistake and I got up to 42 mph a few times (steep hills). So yeah, that’s out of range for running at least for humans.

    Also the heart rate tracking seems even worse with latest firmware, and it never was very good to begin with. Sometimes reads 80 bpm when I’m at 160+, other times reads around 200 when I’m around 150. I do wear it as recommended, snug and up higher on the wrist than a normal watch.

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      Egika Platinum Member @MRC01
      last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 03:20

      @MRC01 the abnormal speed detection has been there for around a year or so.
      It was introduced together with the moving while paused message.
      Nothing new and buggy here. Working as designed.

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        surfboomerang @MRC01
        last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 05:35

        @MRC01 said in New error message "speed is excessive" ?!:

        This happened 4 times within an hour ride which was unnecessary and annoying.

        I get the same message during windsurfing, but it should appear once after the start of the activity and after each pause. No idea if this includes auto-pause as well

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          Egika Platinum Member
          last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 08:08

          Here is some Q&A about abnormal speed message:

          Q2. If user dismiss the reminder or reminder disappears after time out, does the reminder pop up again? Just pops up once?
          ANSWER: Just once. This count is reset when the exercise state is changed. That includes pausing.

          Q3. Under what conditions will the current speed be determined as an abnormal speed? Is there any basis for judgment?
          ANSWER: The abnormal speed is checked only in selected activities: running, trail running, walking, trekking, hiking, golf, nordic walking, orienteering and open water swimming. Resume reminder is active always.

          @surfboomerang abnormal speed should not be active during windsurfing activities. If it is and you have not used a different sport mode, please let me know. Thx

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            surfboomerang @Egika
            last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 08:56

            @Egika I’m pretty sure I got the warning last time I was windsurfing. I do however use a custom profile. Don’t know if that makes any difference?

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              Egika Platinum Member @surfboomerang
              last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 14:45

              @surfboomerang maybe, but should not.
              If you can confirm, I can file a bug.

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                surfboomerang @Egika
                last edited by 12 Oct 2024, 14:50

                @Egika ok, I’ll keep an eye on it once I’m back home from my holiday. And when there is sufficient wind to gain some speed 😉

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                S 1 Reply Last reply 13 Oct 2024, 11:32 Reply Quote 1
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                  surfboomerang @surfboomerang
                  last edited by 13 Oct 2024, 11:32

                  @Egika I was able to reproduce it on a local bus ride 😁
                  The basic windsurfing profile doesn’t give the excessive speed warning. My custom windsuring profile still does.

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                    Egika Platinum Member @surfboomerang
                    last edited by 13 Oct 2024, 18:57

                    @surfboomerang thank you for checking.
                    Bug reported

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                    Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                      surfboomerang @Egika
                      last edited by 21 Dec 2024, 18:48

                      @Egika Not a big deal, but this issue isn’t fixed with the latest firmware

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                        Inge Nallsson @Egika
                        last edited by 21 Dec 2024, 19:23

                        @Egika said in New error message "speed is excessive" ?!:

                        @MRC01 the abnormal speed detection has been there for around a year or so.
                        It was introduced together with the moving while paused message.
                        Nothing new and buggy here. Working as designed.

                        I am a new user (3 weeks) of a Race S. At my last run, or second from last, I was surprised by this ‘moving while paused’ message since it happened while the watch was saving the activity. True, I was moving - I always walk at least 3 minutes after a run - but shouldn’t there be a kind of embargo on that message while doing such an important activity as saving?

                        Am on latest FW 2.39.20 and the saving of the 70 minutes run took longer than the shorter (about 30 minutes) runs I had done on the previous FW 2.37.48. Perhaps the quicker savings is why I haven’t encountered the message before.

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Inge Nallsson
                          last edited by 21 Dec 2024, 19:33

                          @Inge-Nallsson since before save it’s pause can that be ?

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                            Inge Nallsson @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 21 Dec 2024, 19:40

                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos No, after having clicked the upper right button to indicate a STOP, I immediately clicked the lower (red marked) save button.

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                              Inge Nallsson @Inge Nallsson
                              last edited by 21 Dec 2024, 19:45

                              @Inge-Nallsson Should perhaps add that I use a custom profile of the Run activity but have only rearranged data fields on the first screen, not added other screens from the default.

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