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    • peegeeP Offline
      peegee @Elipsus
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      @Elipsus
      FINICKY is the word!

      Been with a Suunto on my wrist since Ambit2
      Currently alternating between Race titanium & Vertical titanium solar.
      Would love a Vertical with amoled display.

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      • Mff73M Offline
        Mff73 @Egika
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        @Egika
        Customizable magnets strength, you got the idea 💡

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          maszop Bronze Member @Mff73
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          If magnetic chargers didn’t work well, why the hell does Suunto still use them?
          For comparison, here’s Suunto’s older solution that just worked:
          https://www.suunto.com/Products/Other-accessories/USB-Power-Cable/

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          • MiniForkliftM Offline
            MiniForklift Platinum Member @GiPFELKiND
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            @GiPFELKiND said in Race awful charger contacts:

            @Brad_Olwin my old Suunto 9 Baro works until today fine 😁No damage from internal components 🤔

            Same! Think I had my S9B for 4 years or might have been even longer, never had any issues with it and the magnets for charging on that watch was the best

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            • sartoricS Offline
              sartoric Moderator @Mff73
              last edited by sartoric

              @Mff73 said in Race awful charger contacts:

              @GiPFELKiND
              between S9P and S9PP, Suunto changes some internal components (surely for more accuracy, dual band, or…) and updated the charger magnets to less strong ones.
              Your S9 even older than S9P, you can’t compare.

              @MiniForklift read what @Mff73 said … older hardware was different

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              • MiniForkliftM Offline
                MiniForklift Platinum Member
                last edited by

                Yep I realise that we’re talking about different hardware. I was just commenting on what a great charger the S9B had ✌

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                  Stefano M64 Silver Members @MiniForklift
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                  the real problem for me with the new charger base isn’t the magnet, but the lack of a “guide” that keeps the charger base correctly aligned with the pins on the back of the watches: it’s enough a small rotation to loose the contact

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                  • Mff73M Offline
                    Mff73 @Stefano M64
                    last edited by Mff73

                    @Stefano-M64
                    in fact (my understanding of the design) is that the magnets are playing the role of alignment jig.
                    not strong enough and alignment is lost.
                    too strong and suunto programmed a non charging alert to safe the sensible components.

                    in addition to magnet, there could be (in the future) a solid aligment point(s), but …

                    [edit] might be some quality issue where magnets are not super well placed according to pins positions (watch vs charger) ?

                    [edit2] my bad, magnets are the contact pin to charge, thus no misalignement. 😞 just too weak ? or poor/dirty contact ? )

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                      maszop Bronze Member @Mff73
                      last edited by

                      @Mff73 It’s just a very bad design.
                      The problem is that Suunto hasn’t done anything about it for years (since the release of 9PP, or even 9P) and traditionally pretends that the problem doesn’t exist.
                      Shame.

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                      • Mff73M Offline
                        Mff73 @maszop
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                        @maszop I don’t think someone say that the problem doesn’t exist. It is not perfect, magnet are weaker than we would like and sometime something doesn’t work, but, globally (my personnal experience) I manage to charge my watch.
                        Suunto has surely decided on purpose which magnet strength to choose vs risk for inside components.
                        But for sure, not under stressed conditions, in a tent or else).
                        Maybe also Variability in magnet manufacturing.

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                          maszop Bronze Member @Mff73
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                          @Mff73 It always seemed to me (apparently wrongly) that Suunto watches (apart from Suunto 7) are sports watches, for outdoor, mountain, etc., and not ordinary smartwatches.
                          Therefore, a reliable and secure way of charging, also in the field, is absolutely necessary. The current solution is the opposite of this assumption. And as you can see here on the forum, Reddit, Facebook, etc., it causes problems for many people.
                          The problem seems very easy to solve, and here for years there have been the same discussions, from which nothing results.

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                          • Mff73M Offline
                            Mff73 @maszop
                            last edited by Mff73

                            @maszop hey mate, i am with you, but i will stop debating, it is giving me downvotes 😁
                            i raised this point long time ago (with lots of others) when S9PP released with weaker magnet. 😂

                            my own litterature about this topic
                            https://forum.suunto.com/post/135781
                            https://forum.suunto.com/post/132247
                            https://forum.suunto.com/post/112961

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                            Wife : S9PP
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                            • Dušan KovićD Offline
                              Dušan Ković @pilleus
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                              @pilleus They probably changed charger for S9PP… I had it but I don’t remember what charger looked like

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                              • Mff73M Offline
                                Mff73 @Dušan Ković
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                                @Dušan-Ković
                                https://forum.suunto.com/post/160193

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                                • Dušan KovićD Offline
                                  Dušan Ković @Mff73
                                  last edited by Dušan Ković

                                  @Mff73 Yup, that’s for S9P, but @pilleus mentioned S9PP charger. I had most suunto watches (S3, S9B, S9P, S9PP, SR - missing SV and SO) so I don’t remember how charger for S9PP looked. My wife still uses my old S9P so I have both chargers (S9P and SR).

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