Oura vs Race HRV - any experiences?
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Hi!
My Oura is dead. It has been really good in measuring the HRV and recovery during the night. However, I’m not going to pay monthly subscription. Besides with that money, I can get new Race. I have S9 Baro at the moment and it doesn’t have HRV measurements.
I know that Oura will be better. However, if the Race HRV is working somewhat reliably, I’d rather upgrade watch to that. But does it? The S9 Baro HR wrist measurements are really un reliable… so my worry is that the Race is also not really good at all and that would mean that the HRV is not reliable.
Can any Oura user compare Race HRV to Oura? Are the correlated or totally different?
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@hgavert OHR in Suunto watches working pretty bad during very intense activities but quite well in everyday use and the results are good.
For me, measuring HRV (especially the trend) works very well. -
@hgavert
The HRV Values between my oura Ring any my suunto race s differ a little bit.Trend wise they give the same signals (upwards, downwards, spikes)
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@maszop The Suunto has been measured to be the worst one from wrist compared to basically all other watches - including the Apple Watch - when compared to HR belt. For me, the sleep tracking is not at all as reliable as Oura. It doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s really tight on or not that tight. However, HRV algorithm is more directly defined than sleep detection.
Has there been any rumours of Suunto starting to use better sensors for wrist? Race is already 1.5 years or so old, right…
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@BRogers80 said in Oura vs Race HRV - any experiences?:
@hgavert
The HRV Values between my oura Ring any my suunto race s differ a little bit.Trend wise they give the same signals (upwards, downwards, spikes)
By different, do you mean different values, like always higher or lower?
How about after hard workout or so? -
When I received my Oura Ring next step it was to disable all the measurments from my Suunto watch
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I’m at the other side, I sold by Oura ring once Suunto introduced HRV tracking in their watches. Did compare them for some time and slight differences in values here and there but the trending was good enough for me. So why pay a subscription for something I get free on my watch and I was already wearing my Suunto 24x7
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@herlas I agree. Still use both but data is very similar. Maybe we both got the good watches lol.
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@hgavert
Indeed. I had multiple watches in the last 4 years. Garmin,Polar,Suunto and the oura ring. Hrv trend was always ver similar. The raw values across the different brands were either always a little bit higher or lower.
Trends are important for me,not the raw numbers. My Suunto Race s and oura 4 give me the same trends. -
@BRogers80 said in Oura vs Race HRV - any experiences?:
@hgavert
Indeed. I had multiple watches in the last 4 years. Garmin,Polar,Suunto and the oura ring. Hrv trend was always ver similar. The raw values across the different brands were either always a little bit higher or lower.
Trends are important for me,not the raw numbers. My Suunto Race s and oura 4 give me the same trends.Thanks!
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@herlas said in Oura vs Race HRV - any experiences?:
I’m at the other side, I sold by Oura ring once Suunto introduced HRV tracking in their watches. Did compare them for some time and slight differences in values here and there but the trending was good enough for me. So why pay a subscription for something I get free on my watch and I was already wearing my Suunto 24x7
This is exactly what I’m thinking. Oura was great years ago when the watches didn’t have any of this. I’m just so long time Suunto user that I have hard time thinking of moving out. I did wear Apple Watch for few years and to be honest, even that old Apple Watch had better wrist HR than Suunto still. This is exactly the only thing that I’m wondering… Good to hear of the good experiences. One question, from Suunto, can you download long time data? To see stress patterns over months.
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Race S !!
I just understood that Race S has upgraded optical HR sensor. Even though it’s smaller, I think I’m going to go with that just for the upgraded sensor. Hope it works better also in sports…
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@hgavert I had a Vertical and a Race (non S) and I favour the Race S. While I found the Vertical‘s GPS to be the best of any watch I ever had, I really like the Race S for it’s ideal size. OHR works great for daily use and things like walking. For strength training, martial arts or running I almost always wear a HR Strap.
And you can see your long time values like Resources in the app nicely - for years, if you want. -
@hgavert said in Oura vs Race HRV - any experiences?:
Hi!
My Oura is dead. It has been really good in measuring the HRV
How do you know hrv on the oura is very good? Do you have a comparison with something proven to be accurate?
I recently ditched my forerunner 965 and bought a Suunto race s. The hrv between the 2 are different. The garmin produces way higher values than the race s. I would say, for my age, the race s produces vales that are expected, but unless I use some scientific/medical equipment there isn’t a way to say which device (garmin vs suunto in my case) is more accurate. For me, hrv is mostly as expected, lower the morning after an high intensity interval training or race, higher after a rest day. No suprises there.
In 15 years use of sport watches I learned quite a lot is marketing bs.
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I have choose to use the Oura Ring 4 because I think that the chances are smaller to have some wrong readings in comparision with the watch (it depends on how tight the strap is). Also because I don’t want to sleep with my watch anymore ( I had some skin irritations).
Also I think that the Oura Ring offers more types/details of readings.
This are my reasons why I’m using Oura from November and I’m using the watch just as a daily watch & for sport, of course -
It has been written many times on this forum that Suunto, Garmin, Oura and all other manufacturers do not measure exactly the same thing and therefore such comparison of raw results does not make any sense.
You can only compare the trend.
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@elbee said in Oura vs Race HRV - any experiences?:
@hgavert said in Oura vs Race HRV - any experiences?:
Hi!
My Oura is dead. It has been really good in measuring the HRV
How do you know hrv on the oura is very good? Do you have a comparison with something proven to be accurate?
I recently ditched my forerunner 965 and bought a Suunto race s. The hrv between the 2 are different. The garmin produces way higher values than the race s. I would say, for my age, the race s produces vales that are expected, but unless I use some scientific/medical equipment there isn’t a way to say which device (garmin vs suunto in my case) is more accurate. For me, hrv is mostly as expected, lower the morning after an high intensity interval training or race, higher after a rest day. No suprises there.
In 15 years use of sport watches I learned quite a lot is marketing bs.
I got the Oura 2 maybe 5 years ago. The values that it gives - or trend if you like - correlate very well will training load and feeling. You can for example do a “meditation session” right after hard training and see how low the HRV is. (That basically means, to have a 15min nap doing breathing exercises.) Also, the nightly HRV is fully correlating with recovery. It just makes sense. Unlike the first beat algorithm used in Suunto resources - that really doesn’t correlate that well.
Also, I do remember finding a study made in some university comparing Oura to clinical level gold standard (obviously don’t remember which device that was). Oura was pretty much right on. That was back then, 5 years ago. Can’t find it from Google now.
