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Suunto Race & Vertical: pair and save multiple sensors of the same type

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    dreamer_ @far-blue
    last edited by 31 May 2024, 06:11

    @far-blue I bought the SV Titanium because of the less weight. I understand that it could be a bit better with OHR readings than the steel one. But I don’t usually rely on the OHR, and that’s why I bought the watch. It seems to me the best watch of the market without any doubt.

    I do have a Polar H10 strap because I like it, it’s comfortable and it has the best HR readings for me. I also have an HRM Tri for the swims and I will probably buy the Suunto one for the swims with the vertical. So my idea is to use the H10 and the Suunto one and I shouldn’t be pairing and unparing every time I need to use one.

    The same happens with my bikes. I have 2 road bikes (one is a Tri bike for TT training and the other one is a normal road one for the climbs and road couses). I shouldn’t be pairing and unparing sensors each time I want to use one. Some friends have also an MTB for new sensors… and that also means that if one bike is near the other one or near of a friend’s bike, you don’t know which sensor you are pairing each time you need to pair /unpair a sensor and because you need to do this everytime. And as I said, even chinese watches can pair multiple sensors.

    I’m receiving the watch next week. I have read that there was also an issue with multiple alarms too but I understand is fixed now. I usually wake up on mondays, saturdays and sundays at different times for my trainings.

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      dreamer_ @dreamer_
      last edited by 31 May 2024, 09:49

      Sorry, just seen the multiple alarms issue is fixed. Finally, it seems I’m receiving my SV Titanium Solar tomorrow. Pretty happy.

      So I’m moving to Suunto from Garmin. I understand Suunto will fix the multiple sensors issue in a near future. It’s the only missing thing in the watch I think.

      At the end, more features and less bugs result in better devices, happier users and “less bad noise” (so more potential sales).
      This seems to me a very (critical) important bug specially for people who is used to a regular training or triathletes and it’s just only a software thing that can be easily fixed.

      It is also something than everybody , even cheap chinese watches is already doing fine. And this is a premium watch that wants to compete with other premium devices.

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        benedikt76
        last edited by benedikt76 17 Sept 2024, 16:52

        Now, 4 month later and we also have a new watch model - the Ocean- that also just became a firmware update. But what we still do not have is the possibility to pair mor then one sensor of the same type. Since I am talking about a new watch, I opend a new thread in the “Ocean” Forum, wich was kindly deleted, so I just want to pull this thread up again.

        The argument of @Egika that only a small percentage of owners is using such a feature is misleading: you can say the same for a lot of other features as well, for example I absolutely do not need any map fuctionality, but the bottom-line is: how do Suunto watches perform in comparion to their peers? And as Suunto is obviously seeing their products, these are “premium multisport wachtes” - like, first of all of course, Garmin’s. In comparison to their watches Suunto is still lacking a lot: depth of data analysis, amount of data available, customization options in gerneral and especially for watch faces, web based access to trainings and data, music player… only to name a few.

        I have great sympathy for Suunto as a smaller company and like their “produced with renewable energy” claim, but all watches I tried so far did not even get close to what Garmin offered. Now with the “Ocean”, I was again optimistic. Not that you get me wrong: a lot of things are pretty goog - GPS accuracy and heart rate is on the same level as Garmin from my perspective. But the details… thats a differnt story - and the ability to pair mulitple sensors is just one of them.

        But perhaps we should be optimistic here: as said before even much cheaper chinese watches offer this feature, and since Suunto is chinese owned since 2022… who knows…

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          A Former User @benedikt76
          last edited by A Former User 18 Sept 2024, 04:23

          Hi, I’m following the post because I’m also looking forward to it.

          I have a speed sensor and a Garmin cadence sensor for the 2) on each of my 2 bikes. In addition, it is impossible to couple the cadence sensor!? Possible or not?

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            Egika Platinum Member @benedikt76
            last edited by Egika 18 Sept 2024, 06:25

            @benedikt76 my argument maybe misleading from your point of view.

            Fact is, that we are not the ones deciding the importance of certain features.
            Suunto does this and they do it professionally and in the best way they can.
            As this feature is not there yet, I can only draw the conclusion that it is prioritized lower than other things.
            Priorities might be totally different for you. Still Suunto is selling their solutions not only to you but to as many customers as possible.And they came to the conclusion that it is more helpful for sales to have climb guidance and watch faces from the app than multiple sensors.
            It is what it is.

            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
            Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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              Sebastian Wagner 0
              last edited by 19 Sept 2024, 09:50

              Since yesterday with the New Suunto ZoneSense Feature the multiple Sensor pairing got more important for me. Because it was total anoying to unpair my OHR sensor, pair the the Heart rate Belt use Zone Sense on my bike Ride. Today i did a Trail run with my Running vest, in this case the Heart rate Belt is unconvenient. So i unpaired the Heart rate Belt, tried to pair the ohr that did Not work. So i put my i Race Off and restarted then i could pair my Ohr and i could start the Training. I think many more people got the Same issue, because they use ohr, but for Zone Sense they Like to use a Heart rate Belt. So it is could to Know that Suunto does have this topic in the back of their mind. By the way Great New Feature is the Zone Sense and all around i am totally happy with my Race and all the New Features from this year 👌🏻

              t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                Egika Platinum Member @Sebastian Wagner 0
                last edited by 19 Sept 2024, 12:37

                @Sebastian-Wagner-0 just good to know: there is no need to unpair a sensor.
                Just pair the new one. It will replace the current one.

                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                  Sebastian Wagner 0 @Egika
                  last edited by 19 Sept 2024, 14:04

                  @Egika
                  Thx.
                  I did that. From the Ohr to the Heart rate Belt. But then back to the Ohr the Race did Not found my Ohr again. The i unpaired the hr belt, same Problem, then i restarted the Watch and now the Ohr got paired again. So my thought was that in the Cache or so from the Race where some data Sets remained there and it would be better if i had unpaired the Ohr before pairing the hr belt. But that was only a thought of mine. I don’t Know if this was the Problem.

                  t3c / ambit / spartan sport /spartan titanium ultra / race

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                    dreamer_ @benedikt76
                    last edited by dreamer_ 20 Sept 2024, 21:28

                    @benedikt76 said in Suunto Race & Vertical: pair and save multiple sensors of the same type:

                    Now, 4 month later and we also have a new watch model - the Ocean- that also just became a firmware update. But what we still do not have is the possibility to pair mor then one sensor of the same type. Since I am talking about a new watch, I opend a new thread in the “Ocean” Forum, wich was kindly deleted, so I just want to pull this thread up again.

                    The argument of @Egika that only a small percentage of owners is using such a feature is misleading: you can say the same for a lot of other features as well, for example I absolutely do not need any map fuctionality, but the bottom-line is: how do Suunto watches perform in comparion to their peers? And as Suunto is obviously seeing their products, these are “premium multisport wachtes” - like, first of all of course, Garmin’s. In comparison to their watches Suunto is still lacking a lot: depth of data analysis, amount of data available, customization options in gerneral and especially for watch faces, web based access to trainings and data, music player… only to name a few.

                    I have great sympathy for Suunto as a smaller company and like their “produced with renewable energy” claim, but all watches I tried so far did not even get close to what Garmin offered. Now with the “Ocean”, I was again optimistic. Not that you get me wrong: a lot of things are pretty goog - GPS accuracy and heart rate is on the same level as Garmin from my perspective. But the details… thats a differnt story - and the ability to pair mulitple sensors is just one of them.

                    But perhaps we should be optimistic here: as said before even much cheaper chinese watches offer this feature, and since Suunto is chinese owned since 2022… who knows…

                    As a person that has done several long distance triathlons, if you are a serious biker, Suunto is not your brand (yet).

                    The reason is that you probably have speed, cadence and power meter sensors and it is very likely that you also have an smart trainer that also has those sensors inside. But it’s more. If you are a cyclist perhaps you also have several bikes (mix of btt, tri and/or road bikes). That is pretty common.

                    Bike power meter sensors do work but as far as I know are also not fully working because of this issue. You can also have several arm and chest straps and you will only be able to pair one (but this last thing is not so bad like the other things nobody can’t see here)

                    I sold my Race for this reason. I waited a lot (first with the Vertical) because I wanted to give an opportunity to Suunto. But it’s not coming and I need a working watch.
                    I’m tired so I ended finally selling it because at the end the watch is not working here. The other thing is that there are some silly issues that are not going to be fixed, like to not being able to put a wake up alarm using weekdays. A lot of people, like me, works from home 2-3 days per week.

                    Now I have my old Forerunner 935 (bought in 2017) that does not have those problems. Pairs everything perfectly (and has the custom alarms). Now it’s coming a T-Rex 3 to my home. A cheap watch that does not have those both issues (and It has the best screen of the market, also has contour lines in maps and WHR is very accurate).

                    But here with the sensors we are speaking about something very important and it seems that Suunto does not realize that the watches have a very serious issue here. And we need to say it because this is also feedback and it needs to be said so developers can understand the whys.
                    I’m sure Suunto will solve this and all the silly issues too but while the marketing team thinks that watchfaces are more important than fixing a serious problem for cyclists, your Suunto’s watch is not for you.

                    I’m pretty sure I’ll return to Suunto. They are working very hard (and it’s very exciting to read about all the incredible good things like the recent new metrics with the chest strap) but for now, until this issue is fixed, Suunto’s watches are not valid for cyclists and triathletes. Sad but it needs to be said clearly.

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                      avgsuuntousr @Egika
                      last edited by 6 days ago

                      @Egika hi there, it’s now 2025 but this feature, which seems like a pretty basic one still hasn’t made its way to the watch/users. Any breakthrough?

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                        Egika Platinum Member @avgsuuntousr
                        last edited by 5 days ago

                        @avgsuuntousr I can only repeat myself.
                        What seems basic for you, is maybe not so basic for others.

                        Good news is: New Suunto Run has this feature 🙂

                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                        Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                          VoiGAS Silver Members @Egika
                          last edited by 5 days ago

                          @Egika Yes, but in exchange the Run has no powermeter support, right? So no good solution for biker so far 🫤


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                            Egika Platinum Member @VoiGAS
                            last edited by 5 days ago

                            @VoiGAS it will have (when in the stores)

                            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                            Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                              VoiGAS Silver Members @Egika
                              last edited by 5 days ago

                              @Egika Interesting - thank you!


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