Map Rendering and Trail Visibility after Software Update 2.43.8/.12
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I am starting a new thread to bring more visibility to the topic of map rendering after software update 2.43.8/.12.
It seems that the goal was to make map look cleaner in the city where there a lot of footpaths and sidewalks. But perhaps the unintended consequence of this updates is that maps are now much less useful when used outdoors.
Before the update, trails (footpaths, sidewalks, etc.) disappeared at the 1km? (1mi) level.
On the current software, trails (footpaths, sidewalks, etc.) disappear at the 500m (0.2mi) level. Service roads (driveways, parking lanes, alleyways, etc.) disappear at the 1km (0.5mi) level. And residential roads disappear at the 2km (1mi) level.
Here are some pictures copied from https://forum.suunto.com/topic/13169/software-update-2.43.8-.12-2025-q2 thread:
New maps on the left vs. old maps on the right when used in a city:
New map when used outdoors:
Please note that the new map rendering is worse for watches configured in imperial units where trails now disappear two zoom levels earlier than before - 0.2mi vs. 1mi.
In addition to that, on the current software, trails become very thin and very difficult to see at the 200m (500ft) level, which makes them especially difficult to see on devices with AMOLED displays because pixels are smaller. The choice to low contrast colors makes this problem even worse. Even the high contrast map theme uses gray on black to render trails, which isn’t exactly high contrast. On the standard map, when running outdoors, trails often appear as dark green on green, which is a poor, low contrast color combo.
On Suunto Race or Race S, the last zoom level where trails can be comfortably seen is 200 ft (=60m) which covers just 20-30 seconds of running.Here is Suunto Race showing a new map at 500ft zoom level. Note that there is a trail that forks from the center of the screen towards the bottom of the screen, but it is very difficult to see when running (when the watch isn’t steady):
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Also, I can’t understand what for are those stupid dots in circle shape around the edge of the display. I’ll appreciate map without them.
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@Jan-Suchánek said in Map Rendering and Trail Visibility after Software Update 2.43.8/.12:
Also, I can’t understand what for are those stupid dots in circle shape around the edge of the display. I’ll appreciate map without them.
I think the radius of that circle represents the distance shown at 9 o’clock, e.g. 500m, but I could be wrong.
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I totally agree that having trails only visible at the 500 ft level is a huge step backwards.
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I’m not sure if this came from the new firmware or the updated maps, but I ran in a new issue this morning: the base map turned solid blue.
Example, it turned blue from here: (44.66635N 6.59406E)
to here: (44.65173N 6.58086E, ~2km from the first point)
Between the two, it looked like this
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@tuxella where are you? Country?
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@GiPFELKiND French alps, between Gap and Briançon. The coordinates (in the previous message) give a more precise location.
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@Squirrel said in Map Rendering and Trail Visibility after Software Update 2.43.8/.12:
I think the radius of that circle represents the distance shown at 9 o’clock, e.g. 500m, but I could be wrong.
I think you are right but these dots are still redundant and just a visual noise on the map which readability is already not the best. They are close to the screen edge so it doesn’t matter whether they are shown or not.
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@Squirrel I looked at that yesterday, the scale is only a half of the screen. If there is 200m scale, it’s from the dotted circle edge to the center of the map (the dot in the middle). So with 500m label, the diameter of the dotted circle/map is 1km.
I looked at another map and find something 200m long and then looked at this on watch to make it clear to me.
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@Jan-Suchánek okay, until today THATS a NEW information think for all of us
thank for your Work 
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@GiPFELKiND You’re welcome, just prove it again just for sure and it’s as I wrote. Btw, I found that the easiest way to measure that, is to enable the ruler function on watch map
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But I’ll remove the dots around map and even if the scale is measured to them, it couldn’t affect it much or the map could be rendered a bit zoomed… -
@Jan-Suchánek I would prefer to have 1/3 of the map “behind” me and “2/3” in front of me at least as a choice, so that I could see the track I missed … and see all the options before me.
using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling through the northern german "wilderness", and wherever else I have the chance to do so
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@Jan-Suchánek FWIW … At “200m” zoom, the distance from the centre of the position marker to the dot ring is 200m, plus 25m to the edge of the MIP display. (Measured using the Vertical’s built-in ruler.)
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@Shrek3k Yes: at least the option for that would be useful. Having the position marker in the centre generally works better for a fixed “North Up” map. (Which also has its fans.)
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@Fenr1r On Race, the dots disappear with ruler function, but I measured 215m from center to the edge of display. So it seems, that the dots-display edge distance is 15m with 200m scale.
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@Jan-Suchánek Curious. 225m on Vertical. Dots disappear, too, but obviously not an issue for the full display radius.
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@Jan-Suchánek said in Map Rendering and Trail Visibility after Software Update 2.43.8/.12:
@Squirrel I looked at that yesterday, the scale is only a half of the screen. If there is 200m scale, it’s from the dotted circle edge to the center of the map (the dot in the middle). So with 500m label, the diameter of the dotted circle/map is 1km.
I looked at another map and find something 200m long and then looked at this on watch to make it clear to me.
From your post I’m not quite sure if you actually agree or not with my previous assessment, but you essentially came to the same conclusion.
radius = poloměr
diameter = průměrPersonally, I don’t find the scale circle distracting and find it better than on Garmin map, where the whole thing seems weirdly shifted off center. The edge of the display could be used as a scale boundary, but I think seeing slightly beyond scale boundary is advantageous.
