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    • A Offline
      Artus Diver @gerasimos
      last edited by

      @gerasimos

      Recently I also noticed that something was happening with the GPS track.
      My track doesn’t look as bad as yours, but you can see “interference” in the track.
      It wasn’t there before (…)

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        Ze Stuart Gold Members
        last edited by Ze Stuart

        I have seen the same: I assume it’s due to the new GNSS firmware that was included with the update. Not enough testing!

        https://zulusierra.co

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          gerasimos Bronze Member @Artus Diver
          last edited by

          @Artus-Diver before 2.42.12 GPS it was clean and smooth of the 90% of openwater activities

          !Screenshot_2025-07-07-14-58-13-197_com.stt.android.suunto.jpg

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            CroShark
            last edited by

            Unfortunately I have the same problem with my Vertical Steel Solar.
            The GNSS is great in land activities, but in Open Water Swimming is criminally bad.
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            In my last swim I achieved a top speed of over 90 km/h.😬
            Before the swim I have followed all the necessary steps for a good GNSS signal (update with Android App, and waited 5 minutes on land before starting the swim).

            The old Ambit 3 Peak was perfect for swimming.
            I’m really disappointed with the Vertical in this segment, currently it is practically unusable for any swimming metrics.

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              gerasimos Bronze Member @CroShark
              last edited by

              @CroShark
              Before the latest update, I had excellent results with the Vertical in open water.
              I can honestly say that, compared to people using Garmin (fenix, forerunner ) and COROS (apex pro)devices (swim side by side always freestyle technique), my trackings were equally good — if not better and more reliable — even under cloudy skies and sea wave conditions.

              I assume this is some kind of glitch or bug introduced in the recent update, as a soft reset hasn’t resolved the issue. I’m confident it’s not a hardware problem, since the watch performs flawlessly in every other use case.

              I hope this will be improved in a future update, before I consider doing a hard reset.

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              • gerasimosG Offline
                gerasimos Bronze Member @CroShark
                last edited by gerasimos

                @CroShark
                I also did a test using a “ghost” open water swimming activity. When the watch detects that you’re moving too fast for typical swimming speeds, it displays a pop-up message saying that you’re moving at a speed that’s too fast for swimming and pauses the activity, asking if you want to continue.

                This could be helpful in cases where the GPS reflects incorrectly and shows you’re moving at 90 km/h, so it notifies you with a message.
                But didn’t work in my case into the sea

                • ideally, such issues shouldn’t occur in the first place…

                However, I want to try placing the watch inside a swim buoy, though it’s not as convenient as being able to quickly glance at your wrist.

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                  CroShark @gerasimos
                  last edited by

                  @gerasimos
                  Thanks for the suggestions.
                  During the swim I did get the message to pause my activity, because the watch detected a to high speed for swimming, but I ignored it.
                  This was the first time I received it during any activity.

                  I sparingly use the swim buoy, but placing the watch on it defeats the purpose of GNSS watch, like you stated.

                  I hope Suunto will solve this in the near future, I usually swim the most during August.

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                  • gerasimosG Offline
                    gerasimos Bronze Member
                    last edited by gerasimos

                    Fifth test in open water activity

                    1. I changed the watch to the other wrist (from left to right) in case symmetry during freestyle swimming was the issue.

                    2. I followed buoys in the sea that were in a straight line (500meter in one way).

                    3. GPS signal strength was between 75–85%.

                    4. Weather conditions were excellent – clear sky.

                    5. Brief stops with the hand completely out of the water for about 1 minute, to allow the signal to stabilize.

                    6. Never pressed paused

                    7. Before starting the activity, I waited 5 minutes after the GPS indicator turned green, for better locking, and of course synchronized with the app.

                    — Unfortunately, still very poor results (after last upgrade), even after a soft reset / profile deletion and creation of a new one same results and with default openwater profile.

                    Next step: Hard reset and test again…

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                    • gerasimosG Offline
                      gerasimos Bronze Member @CroShark
                      last edited by

                      @CroShark

                      Looking at the logbook history, I see much better recordings with the Suunto 9 in the same places several years ago, when supposedly GPS technology wasn’t as advanced as it is today…
                      Let’s see after my hard reset 🤞🏻

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                      • Ze StuartZ Offline
                        Ze Stuart Gold Members @gerasimos
                        last edited by

                        Same experience for me, the track is basically a drunken squiggle. Nothing to be done but wait for a fix.

                        @isazi do you know if this has been reported?

                        https://zulusierra.co

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