My Plan Beta

dulko79

@Stavrogin Just a short overview of latest training plans: https://www.suunto.com/en-si/News/level-up-your-training-with-suunto-coach--now-smarter-with-ai/
No details, some info on the future plans. It seems rough training algorithm has been set. Fine tuning will be done together, Suunto + users. As some new features will be introduced later this year I assume we will get more clarity on the AI engine running behind training plans.

KSGravelJunkie

Some things that would really boost this for me. I know some of these have been mentioned.

Cycling only plans, I don’t run or swim. I’m sure this is in the works.
When selecting sports, it would be nice to have multiple profiles covered under one sport (i.e. cycling would allow me to do the workout on my gravel, road, or indoor cycling workout profiles)
Be able to select the date of the event as your finish.
Push the workouts to external platforms (like intervals.icu). Mainly, it would be nice to do the cycling workouts on my Hammerhead for visibility and (when indoors) ERG support.
The available hours doesn’t match what the plans are putting out when generated. For example, I select 5-7 hours but the plan only schedules 3 or so hours a week. I ended up selecting 9-12 hours available to actually get 5-7 hours of training in a week.

Otherwise, this is huge and I really look forward to using it.

aiv4r

@Gunnar I understand your concern, but probably not the same people are complaining and not the same people asked. First of all, I have never asked for training plans made by ai, I think even best ai implementations have issues, and that is a lot of work to get it really right as with a lot of things, might work for masses, but definately not for everybody.
Second, it is a feedback thread we are discussing our experience and yes maybe mu comment was not a lot of value, but yours was really not needed in a thread like that. Respectfully.
Third, it is not open beta, if you watch the video, it said - it will always be betta since it will always be improving. So yes it will improve, but I think if your name is Suunto and release something, I just want for it to be better quality and not something that is less usefull than me writing two sentences to chatGPT or any other service thay exist and Suunto partners with.

Sorry, for offtopic.

2b2bff

The plan itself looks interesting. Even more so as it incorporates other sports than running and strength training. However, how do you see whats inside the planned workout? You cannot look inside of a Guide on the watch or in Suunto App (iOS) - or do I miss something? The general description like “Intense intervals with recovery breaks in between” doesn’t help much.

Even more so, does the plan adapt to other things you might do? Like having an unplanned short night with bad sleep before the day that had an intense session planned?

timecode

@2b2bff if you scroll down in My Plan you can see your schedule, then if you click on the workout, there is a basic description of your target at the bottom of that workout.

2b2bff

@timecode you mean this?

That’s the general description I meant. I wanna see the breakdown in individual training steps.

timecode

@2b2bff yeah and tap on it, it will open and you’ll see more details

wmichi

It might have something to do with this app update (which is great!)… If you do a structured workout, which was created in the Suunto App, the watch vibrates and beeps when you are out of the target zone.

Stavrogin

@KSGravelJunkie One of your points is one of my wishes so far. It wanted me to do a Trial Run, but it had run 3 inches the night before and in this clay soil in NC it would be really slippery so I stayed on the streets. Unfortunately if it wants you to do a trail run, the workout is only available in trail run. The work around for me was doing the “trail run” on the road and changing it afterward, but still, that seems like it could be an easy fix.

2b2bff

@timecode not much of details…

That’s more of what I wanna know and expect to see:

timecode

@2b2bff well, told you, it’s just a basic description.

dulko79

If heart rate zones are changed through a watch when the training plan is already in progress, is the plan then updated according to new hr zones including training session descriptions?

mando

@wmichi any idea how to disable this. its the most annoying thing ever and should be configurable

timecode

Are you guys able to follow the instructions? I am slow and cannot run at such a pace with such a low Hr

aiv4r

@timecode lol is it same for all? I have exactly the same one except 5min longer

And I could run that one easily, so I guess it is not really tailored

GiPFELKiND

@aiv4r @timecode do you both have Set your standard heart rate zones personally or not?! Same with pace… If you both uses standard calculated zones then it could be the same.

aiv4r

@GiPFELKiND mine should be adjusted, I have my maxHR set ± correctly. Not sure about pace zones, I am not even sure how to change that

timecode

@GiPFELKiND I don’t think I have them set correctly. I have a high max HR and my activities show very often that I am in Z5 for a long time. I guess I should perform a test to figure them out.

timecode

@aiv4r I have a high HR, used to have 200+ during soccer a few years ago, so I guess a bit less now. So it’s impossible for me to keep such low HR at such tempo

aiv4r

@timecode fully understand in my case I really need to kill myself to reach more than 180 that is why I am confused, because it should show very different expectations for us