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      gkaempfer Bronze Member @Horizontal_2
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      @Horizontal_2 I agree it probably isn’t good for the battery to drain too low. I don’t know what level is best to allow (10%? 20%?).
      I try to minimize charging as that is also a process that isn’t really healthy for the battery AFAIK so there is a slight conflict there.

      I didn’t use any navigation nor flashlight nor AOD. They all consume quite a bit more and at this stage I tried to minimize distortion to the model and setting a benchmark that I found reliable.

      Indeed, I think that the result is great. I believe it outperforms any of the competitor watches I considered and with an excellent display when I need it (I would even like it to be less bright in the dark).

      The latest model I got is also completely on par with the specs (20 days with OHR without activities / 65 hours of GPS+OHR).

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        Horizontal_2 Bronze Member @gkaempfer
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        @gkaempfer I see the conflict there. But keep in mind this is the advantage of a large battery. Suunto gives warranty for 1 year or 300 charging cycles (300 cycles is something you’ll get in 11 years! Based on a charging cycle of 14 days)
        https://www.suunto.com/en-nl/Support/Product-support/suunto_vertical-2/suunto_vertical-2/care-and-support/battery/

        Influence of the low charge is equal. If you compare a battery which lasts 1 day or 20 days, and you drain both to 0%, the time below - let’s say 20% - is equal.

        • For the small battery it’s more frequent, but shorter.
        • For the bigger battery it’s less frequent, but longer.

        So, I think keeping the battery healthy has more impact by draining it less than charging it less.

        Also, I think a 14 day cycle is acceptable and most conveinient if you have a regulary week schedule. So if my battery is 20%, 16% or 14% - I don’t really care, and it’s still an acceptabel percentage to do a run

        EDIT: by the way, I don’t think you should be worried about it too much. Probably calander aging is the biggest enemy and we just can’t stop time. The sweet spot would be 20 - 80% charge. But you’ll give up 40% of your capacity (that’s 8 days!) to keep your battery optimal for 20 or 40 years. That won’t happen

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          gkaempfer Bronze Member @Horizontal_2
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          @Horizontal_2 I agree it’s probably not a real issue to worry about the level at which to recharge. BTW the battery warranty is for one year (and the 300 cycles only if they come earlier).

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            gkaempfer Bronze Member @gkaempfer
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            I continue to track battery life with the same settings I used above. This time I managed to get 15 days with 19.75 hours of GPS activities (running and cycling) while the battery went down from 100% to 8%.

            During this period I noticed that with the 6.5.9 Android app that had BT connectivity issues the battery drain without activities was less than before. I managed about 3.75%/day (which translates into over 26 days without activities!!). Once version 6.6.3 of the app fixed these issues, usage was probably back to my normal of about 4.7%/day. I guess flight mode is an effective way to save battery life…

            I also had some Android updates (Pixel 8 ) so it’s hard to tell what changed.

            Anyway, I’m still quite happy with the V2 battery life. Charging once every two weeks roughly is great. It mainly depends on the activity load (during this cycle I was sick for a few days so my average daily GPS usage was low in the first week).

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              Horizontal_2 Bronze Member
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              Last one (I think 😊). The blue line is measured. The purple one is the model! It was hard to train during these holidays. There were 6,5 hours of training this 2 week period.

              Okay, this is pretty alright. I think the battery isn’t draining linear with the percentage. I’m really satisfied right now! I was a bit down when the battery was so low this morning. It’s on the charger right now

              Sometimes it does like there is more drain that expected. After the first run and the last run. I’ve resetted the watch and for a few hours on the Airplane mode.

              Other notable things:

              • The last run was with maps on ‘light mode’. It’s better visible in snow than ‘dark mode’. It seems to be draining much more battery than dark mode
              • I’ve used the flashlight almost every day. One day even for a few minutes. My girlfriend couldn’t read the menu in a restaurant. I can’t see this back in the chart
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                Horizontal_2 Bronze Member
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                Last one wasn’t the last one. This time it was a bit worse.

                Still the H10 seemed cuasing promblems. around day 10 I did a long run with the H10. That caused a lot of drain afterwards. Does anyone else still has that problem? That night I forgot the H10 on my watch. Did a soft reset and swore never use it again 🙂

                Also many runs drained more battery than expected. Might be due to the many SuuntoPlus Apps + maps. I’ll try running with less apps 🙂 .

                I used the flashlight of the Vertical as minimal as possible. In these 12 days I’ve been using GPS for running for 10,6 hours.

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                  gkaempfer Bronze Member @Horizontal_2
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                  @Horizontal_2 I just finished a two week cycle including upgrade mid cycle to the latest hotfix.
                  I managed to get 14 days with 26.5 hours of GPS (running and cycling) on my Vertical 2.
                  I’m very happy with that. I used some navigation in runs and almost never used the flashlight. Only OHR without external strap.

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                    Horizontal_2 Bronze Member @gkaempfer
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                    @gkaempfer That’s better than advertised. A 14 days-cycle could be accomplished with 20 hours of GPS.

                    Is this with the best settings and OHR 24/7 on?

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                      gkaempfer Bronze Member @Horizontal_2
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                      @Horizontal_2 Indeed better than advertised!
                      AOD OFF
                      Raise to wake: Display only
                      247 HRM
                      Notifications ON
                      No external BT connections except Android Suunto App
                      Wireless OFF
                      BT discovery OFF
                      Brightness LOW
                      DND from 22:00-5:40
                      Sleep tracking on with HRV but without SPO2
                      Some navigation but not during most of the activities (maybe during some 7 activities of about an hour each - easy navigation).
                      No use of any SuuntoPlus Apps
                      NO USE OF FLASHLIGHT

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                        gkaempfer Bronze Member @gkaempfer
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                        Note that I did run down the battery all the way to 3% before recharging (ran a marathon in the last activity beginning with 8% or so).
                        It may need to be counted as 13.5 days because I took the watch off the charger at 19:00 and put it on the charger on the 14th day at around noon (so maybe 7 hours before the full 14 days). However, the remaining 3% would have brought me there easily.

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                          sky-runner Platinum Member @segi_pn
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                          And now I am experiencing an extreme battery drain with Race S.

                          Yesterday while I was at work it entered an extreme power save mode with 3% remaining, but still shut down a couple of hours later. I recharged it to 92% at around 8 pm last night. This morning, 12 hours later, it is already at 53%. No activities on between!

                          Suunto: Ambit, Ambit 3 Peak, 9 Baro, Race S, Race Ti
                          Garmin: Forerunner 210, Forerunner 610, Fenix 6X, Fenix 7X Ti

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