Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?
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@Adrian.S sure, photo was just an example, I compared them in runs also, my reflections are from runs. Backlight does not change anything midle of the day, I keep backlight off on Apex4 throughout the day. Still I think reflections are worse on my V1. Again I have Apex4 just for week or two and most of my runs were in bright daylight, might be that in other conditions it sucks. But again might be too small of a difference to notice, I just did not agree that Apex4 is crap when it is almost the same, peace. I love my V1 regardless
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After few months with Race 2 and previouse owning of Suunto 5 and Ambit 2 here is my opinion.
Amoled has great colors and great refresh rate. But thats it.
Benefits of MIP for me:
It always show time, no need for specific rise to wake move. Even slight move of hand wakes watch and i can see full watchface. This was great in day to day use when working etc.
In night with low backlight is not so agresive agains eyes compared to bright amoled even on low brightnes.
In sport modes always visible even on bike handle no fallback to limited AOD.
In daylight great visibility without higher consumption of battery as MIP doesn’t need any backlight during daytime.I buy watch once in a while so since i bought Race 2 lately. I am not interested in any new model MIP or Amoled in next 5 years. But than if available i would prefer MIP version over Amoled but only if all other spec of MIP watch was same.
Suunto Ambit 2 > Suunto 5 > Suunto Race 2
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@Brad_Olwin The early fenix models had the options to be sold with or without HRM, but indeed, i don’t think there is a market anymore for sport smartwatch without HRM, the convenience factor is just too good
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@Brad_Olwin
I totally agree! MIPS are perfectly readable under bright sunlight but in shady areas or cloudy/dusky conditions, they are sometimes really hard to read especially if you are trailrunning or racing flat and you’re wrist is moving a lot. If MIPS need backlight to be readable then you end up with the same delay for activation as with AMOLED.
OHR is also way to error prone and if one would remove the OHR module, one would save a lot of battery while at the same time the battery capacity can be enlarged for the same watch size.
This would probably increase run time a lot and it could be a great sports watch in my eyes -
I don’t think we have a battery problem. I agree that smaller size and less weight would be beneficial though!
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@Tomas5 said in Is there still demand for a modern MIP endurance watch?:
It always show time, no need for specific rise to wake move.
In sport modes always visible even on bike handle no fallback to limited AOD.These are the two main things why I miss the MIP display. But that is it. Whenever I switch to a MIP display I have the urge to go back to AMOLED due to the vibrant colors and contrast - AMOLED is much better for my poor eyesight. The only issue is that I don’t like 99,999% of watchfaces in time only mode.
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@Egika I’m more than happy with the battery life on both my Verticals - 65 h in dual band. Also, I hardly feel the V2 Ti with a nylon strap on my wrist. It’s less than 60 g, so I’m very pleased.
That being said, if Suunto came up with a second gen of 9PP, I’ll totally buy it.
I’ll always have a soft spot for the iconic design of this watch. Absolutely love it. -
@Ecki-D. I like both MiP and amoled. If Coros can make the Apex 4 with MiP in two sizes, why Suunto wouldn’t be able to do same and make MiP V2 in two sizes as well? I’d buy both sizes.
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@outdoorman i don’t have problem reading MIP yet. I prefer vibrant colors on devices where purpose is watching movies or editing photos. But for watch there is more important for me that screen is always showing time. I don’t like a lot that at office or at home on sofa when i want to check time i must do raise to wake movement every time. Even when I am already in position to see screen but since it is just black. Thats big problem for me but maybe i get used to it. I would prefer if each model was amoled and MIP and users could choose. I will buy next watch in far future. Maybe than will amoled be mature enough to be always on with full watchface without compromises.
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I really enjoy MIP for how low key it is. It doesn’t blast light like AMOLED. Since I wear my watch 24/7, I like it when it’s low key.
I’m also afraid about longevity it AMOLED. MIP is essentially forever.
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As of yesterday, I’ve switched to Vertical 2.
My initial impressions have shattered my preconceptions.
My tests are ongoing. I haven’t sold Vertical 1 yet. It will be good for my comparative tests.
