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    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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      @Tobias-F said in Important news concerning our digital services:

      @valdis830 said in Important news concerning our digital services:

      I have iPhone 3, 4, 5 at home

      your iphone are still working fine as standalone unit, with today’s announcement Suunto Ambit1/2, T3/4/6 Series, GPS trackpods are not longer working after 2020 because you need movecount.com mandatory to e.g. to add POD’s, adjust your bodymetrics, switch beween recording intervals or alter your sportmodes, so it’s a bit different here, Suunto is rendering these perfectly working devices obsolete by these lunatic change of the software platform without proper backwards compatibility

      is that really the truth? Doesn’t your ambit work as a standalone as well and has many of these configs already in the watch available?

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        pcjmfranken Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos You can still use older iPhones to call, send and receive messages, use apps, use navigation, browse the web, pretty much anything you could do before.

        After shutting down Movescount, I can no longer use my Ambit 2 for 80% of the things I use it for currently. Recording my moves is not really useful when there’s no way to look at them later. And not being able to plan routes beforehand makes it useless as a GPS device as well.

        So I do agree with @Tobias-F

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          @pcjmfranken I will withdraw my self from this argument (old phone experience) vs the ambits, as I better understand your point regarding the Ambit. But as an ex iphone 4 user till some months ago, I d have sincerely to argue that you can use that device to proper browse the web or even perform an Auth or navigate. Perhaps its the perpective or that apple slows down prev devices. In any case it’s a different subject that wont add value in this conversion from what I see. Lets focus on Ambits and their support.

          Perhaps btw this helps to take a look at http://openambit.org/

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            After all, pretty sure there are lots of software developers around. Make A2 / Movescount thing open-source and that should do 🙂 no pain and no money supporting it.

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              @Alex-Nedovizii just posted about a possible solution http://openambit.org/

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                Alex Nedovizii Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos thank you, haven’t mentioned it. Sorry! This is at least something 🙂

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Alex Nedovizii
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                  @Alex-Nedovizii Just to be clear. I DO UNDERSTAND that this is bad NEWS for the AMBIT2 users (the most + others) and I have no intension to smoothen this by posting something like: Oh look you can sync with that thing (http://openambit.org/).

                  I just post this from a personal perspective, as if I was an ambit user, perhaps after this news I would definitely try to see what I can do in regards to other SW for sync and getting my data out.

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                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                    is that really the truth?

                    think that will be the dead end then for these watches, majority of setting on the tseries and early ambits (non BT) can only be adjusted via the movescount.com connection e.g. the POD’s can only be paired in the watch but can’t be activated for a particular sportmode, compass declination, bike pod calibration factors, gps accuracy levels, resting HR from bodymetrics … all of them come from a movescount sync only so over time these non ‘supported watches’ will get stuck with last settings somewhere from 2020 then…

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                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                      So to understand your blocker atm. You use movescount because you have one place that your have routes collected and you prefer to only use WEB for route creation.

                      What stops you from importing these routes to SA now , via any feasible way, so you can use them, and edit / import export/ on any other service? In the future you will be even able to share those. Is this such a big deal for you? I am not arguing but rather trying to understand 100%. That is because atm from this announcement, routes is the least worry imo, and partially it’s a feature well done in SA.

                      Assume then my main route storage is SA - as there is no web interface in SA i cannot preview/edit/update them other than by either doing it on the phone (not feasible with detailed tracks required small fiddly changes) or by previewing in SA, exporting it to other platform, editing and then reimporting it.

                      If my main storage is elsewhere I loose the connection to the watch - I will have to export the route to GPX and then import into SA and then sync to wath. I actually think that is messy.

                      I either loose the quick load into watch or the workable catalogue.

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                        @Tobias-F Ok clear. I am not familiar with the A2/T watches.

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                          @Alex-Nedovizii There’s almost zero incentive to get started on a massive project like that though. It’ll simply cost way too much time to produce a minimally working product, which would still be at the mercy of API changes further down the road.

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                            @Robert-Rundqvist Got it now! Thanks a lot for this.

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                              Oh my … I need a whole day to read this

                              😁

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                                  Looks like a big tasty mud cake for trolls

                                  😁 😁 😁

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                                    @Tobias-F

                                    And it will cost Suunto a lot of customers…
                                    If Suunto really disappointed a lot of Ambit2 users (I’m one of them) I would never buy a Suunto again.

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                                      @awinkel
                                      think so as well, Suunto might not fully realize yet these days software sells hardware…

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                                        I really can’t believe that creating a web version for the Suunto app is under discussion and Suunto needs feedback in order to decide about it. The option to be able to view and analyse your data on a pc web platform as powerful and analytical as Movescount (contrary to the “childish” SportsTracker we currently got) is elementary. There is a good reason everyone else has it and innovating and standing out is not about giving less, rather than giving more.

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                                          @Tobias-F do you believe that this is the case after all the announcements? Its a service transition to better SW imo or eyes. Suunto might know a bit better it’s internal systems and when it’s time to transition. No?

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                                            pcjmfranken Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos From a technical perspective, probably yes. But in the process you’ll lose all the goodwill you’ve built up with your customers in the process.

                                            Think this is a shitshow? Wait until the majority of Ambit 2 and diving watch users find out their watch will no longer work in 2020. None of those people, their friends or family will every buy any Suunto product ever again.

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