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    • JoaquinJ Offline
      Joaquin Moderator @isaac.net
      last edited by Joaquin

      @isaac.net not, working on it 😉 of course, we must do more and more Tets but looks promising

      Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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        jjpaz Bronze Member @Joaquin
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        @Joaquin said in Race 2 accuracy:

        @jjpaz @dreamer_ Interesting test

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        This test was performed on a very short and technical mountain loop under dense tree canopy.

        Loop characteristics:
        • Wheel measured distance: 497 m

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        • Total laps: 11
        • Expected real distance: 5.467 km
        • Clockwise direction
        • Dense forest coverage
        • Repeated technical turns including one ~180° hairpin and two additional closed turns
        The loop contains:
        • Curve 1 → ~180° hairpin
        • Curve 2 → ~90° closed turn
        • Curve 3 → ~85° closed turn

        These repeated direction changes make this route extremely demanding for GNSS filtering and track reconstruction.

        One important detail:
        all watches were worn in different wrist positions, so small variations are completely normal. Watches placed slightly higher on the arm usually record slightly more distance due to arm swing and antenna orientation.

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        Results:

        • COROS Apex 4 → 5.37 km (-1.8%)
        • Suunto Race 2 → 5.36 km (-2.0%)
        • Suunto Vertical 2 → 5.33 km (-2.5%)
        • Garmin 970 → 5.30 km (-3.1%)
        • Amazfit T-Rex Pro 3 → 5.14 km (-6.0%)

        A very interesting detail appeared when comparing GNSS raw distance vs filtered activity distance.

        This is where you can clearly see the work of each brand’s algorithms trying to reconstruct the “real” trajectory under dense canopy conditions.

        GNSS Distance represents the raw satellite accumulation, while Distance is the final filtered value after each brand applies its own correction, smoothing and trajectory reconstruction algorithms.

        The most impressive result here was the Suunto Vertical 2:
        • 5.33 km GNSS Distance
        • 5.33 km final Distance

        An almost perfect match between raw GNSS data and filtered output, showing extremely confident trajectory processing in this test.

        COROS and Suunto Race 2 also stayed very close between raw and filtered values, while Garmin showed a more aggressive correction approach:
        • 5.44 km raw GNSS
        • corrected down to 5.30 km final distance

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        With the exception of the Amazfit, the distance difference between the other four devices is completely normal considering the different wrist positions and the extremely difficult GNSS conditions during the test.

        ENJOY!!!

        @Joaquin Impressive work! Thanks!

        Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar, Suunto Race 2 Ti & Suunto Wing.

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          isaac.net @Joaquin
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          @Joaquin great, thank you so much!

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            dreamer_ @jjpaz
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            I can’t confirm the Race 2 now but I’m posting this because I can confirm the Vertical 2 in the track I was talking here:

            https://forum.suunto.com/topic/15071/several-navigation-issues-feedback/39

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            All watches in exactly the very same wrist position, but different days. It’s pretty interesting to see how I’m having so similar distances considering I’m running in different days. But in the other hand, it’s a track I know really well. There’s road but trail with several tree zones with dense forest.

            Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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              Joaquin Moderator @dreamer_
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              @dreamer_ similar distance all good 👍

              Keep in mind that my test isn’t a standard route test; it’s a course specifically designed to check trajectory/distance in challenging situations. No one will run around a loop like a hamster in real life 😅However, it’s very useful because we can have similar sections on our routes, and this gives us enough information to know if our watches will handle them with sufficient accuracy. Obviously, this is visible in a test like this, but in real-world route tests, it might seem like all the watches perform similarly, even if one fails on a 40-meter section. But when you put it through this rigorous testing, you see exactly what’s good and what’s bad.

              Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                dreamer_ @Joaquin
                last edited by dreamer_

                @Joaquin yes, it’s just the Vertical 2 is giving exactly the same result (and 2 times) as the Fenix 8 in my track. While the others, have slightly differences even in this track.

                Thank you so much for this!! Really interesting, and very nice work

                Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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                  chus1962 @Joaquin
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                  @Joaquin Wow, great work!

                  Just out of curiosity, how did you get the GNSS distance?

                  Any program that processes a GPX file will do some kind of filtering to calculate the distance, and it will give a lower value than if I simply take the GPX points, calculate the distance between them, and add them up (which is what I understand to be the actual raw distance).

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                    Joaquin Moderator @dreamer_
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                    @dreamer_ thank you for your feedback and help ❤️‍🔥

                    Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                      Joaquin Moderator @chus1962
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                      @chus1962 internal tools but is not the important here 😉 Users will only see the total distance processed, so it is only useful for internal engineering and software analysis.

                      Technical & Product Specialist – Suunto Iberia

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                        dreamer_ @Joaquin
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                        @Joaquin this is very interesting. Btw, it’d be really nice if you could also add the Race S to the test (not for the shots here but to have internal tests for you now you are doing all this work) and also switch the position of all watches several times in the arm, so you know what are exactly the measurings of all watches in the very same position. I know it means many runs but it also means that you have the very same references several times for all (I think).

                        Thank you so much for this.

                        Suunto Vertical 2 Titanium Sage, Suunto Spark, Suunto Run

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