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  • J Offline
    Jennifer Gothilander @Guest
    last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 18:21

    @NickK I don’t have them on my phone, I guess. I mean my Movescount data from like 2012. That’s on the website, but probably not in my app. And the web program didn’t go with Movescount. And even if, I’d have to sort all duplicates that’s already in Strava?

    And I like to use a website to analyze year by year. I just kept Strava for cycling. But I guess that time is over


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      cosme.costa
      last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 18:22

      I think that this post is getting quite hot. Some are very upset but as @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos says this is the first communication, and I would think that Suunto will try to find the best solution to everybody. Suunto surely knows that these watches without connection is nothing.

      If you read my posts you will see clearly which is my opinion on the Suunto App and how should evolve, but I think, as a lot of us, that MC had an end date and we should propose solutions and make clear what we expect instead of being only angry. Besides of posting here we can also send emails to Suunto support explaining what we expect and want.

      IMO is good that Suunto has announced this so early, now we can push and let know or requests.

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        ColdBeer @Jennifer Gothilander
        last edited by ColdBeer 15 Jan 2019, 18:27

        @Jennifer-Gothilander Just to studying other points of view (not preventing -still- a full migration) I configured today my SyncMyTracks registered app on my Android phone:
        Image on Mega
        Link: https://mega.nz/#!TN0V3YqD!B0NuLMVKu9NsSzNr5ibCzEVHY_BxJ24PwlgMX2ytmK8

        var Watch="Garmin Forerunner 735XT", WatchFw="9.40";
        var Phone="Samsung Galaxy S8", PhoneOS="Android 9.0.0";

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          jsuarez Bronze Member @cosme.costa
          last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 18:32

          @cosmecosta said in Important news concerning our digital services:

          I think that this post is getting quite hot.

          Maybe at this time the guys at Suunto are thinking that pressing the “nuke” button was bold
 LOL
          Let’s see how this evolves.

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            A Former User @jsuarez
            last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 18:34

            @jsuarez The best part is they haven’t pressed anything. Just raised the possibility
 Oh, the joy of internets! Some 15-20 years ago this would have gone smoothly and quietly. Not a cricket cry! If only Suunto were in time machine business


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              A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 18:50

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Third party tools for route editing don’t support adding waypoints on routes or editing POIs. Is that something Suunto plans to quietly discontinue with Movescount?

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 18:52

                @silentvoyager I think its in the plans waypoint support in routes. This information exists on GPX files afaik.

                Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                  haydnw Bronze Member @Zdeněk Hruơka
                  last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 19:03

                  @Zdeněk-Hruơka As an Ambit2 user, this will be impossible after the change, because the routes have to be transferred using the web interface.

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                    Shrek3k
                    last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 19:04

                    The cancelation of the service is exactly what I feared and predicted. Of course I try to stay optimistic that Suunto is going to offer a service at least similar, better at least identical in the important services, better even if improved compared to the current MC.
                    But - in a way this is what quite a number of members was asking for: a road map or you might even call it a vision. KUDOS!
                    Nevertheless, as we have all seen, that one year (SA) is a very short time for major improvements concerning the implementation of really new services and features (but not to much time to fix issues/bugs and implement some features mostly by copying them), this seems to be quite a challenge.
                    Although being a little sceptical, I am most certainly happy to be part and member of this developement (probably a critiquing member, most certainly not a critical 🙃)

                    using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                    OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Shrek3k
                      last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 19:27

                      @Shrek3kđŸ„°

                      Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                      Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                      youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                      https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                      https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                        glaucidium.passerinum
                        last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 19:33

                        That’s a real pity ! I don’t have a compatible phone. Why would you trash a functional website ? I’m greatly disappointed for not being able to fully use my recent watch. I wouldn’t have bought it if I knew it !
                        Please restore/keep a web interface !

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                          MarkG Bronze Member @glaucidium.passerinum
                          last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 19:46

                          @glaucidium-passerinum
                          I’ve an original ambit, I supported suunto by paying a lot of money for it not long after they came out. It works fine and does everything I need it to. If I’m forced to replace it because suunto won’t honour their obligations the replacement will NOT be a suunto product.

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                            witchcraft @MarkG
                            last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 19:54

                            @MarkG You and me both

                            Ambit (1) and GPS TrackPod user

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                              A Former User @Mike Green
                              last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 19:54

                              @Mike-Green agree with you. If Suunto can’t provide an option to make pre Ambit3 watches running, just partner with someone who can, like openambit project!
                              I couldn’t care less about online services, right now I only connect my Ambit 2 Sapphire to movescount to import the files to sporttracks, but I want the option to “mess” with watch settings. Just like I wanted years ago: https://www.change.org/p/suunto-suunto-give-customers-a-way-to-fully-use-their-watch-offline
                              If suunto can’t do that, at least some web based service. As someone said, garmin provided this type of service for older watches


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                                andy1892 @Guest
                                last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 19:58

                                @NickK If they are working on a web based version, they should tell us now rather than giving us a very thin explanation of what is happening. They should be able to tell how much use the website gets and plan / update us accordingly.

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                                  A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 20:07

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                                  @Tobias-F said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                                  @valdis830 said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                                  I have iPhone 3, 4, 5 at home

                                  your iphone are still working fine as standalone unit, with today’s announcement Suunto Ambit1/2, T3/4/6 Series, GPS trackpods are not longer working after 2020 because you need movecount.com mandatory to e.g. to add POD’s, adjust your bodymetrics, switch beween recording intervals or alter your sportmodes, so it’s a bit different here, Suunto is rendering these perfectly working devices obsolete by these lunatic change of the software platform without proper backwards compatibility

                                  is that really the truth? Doesn’t your ambit work as a standalone as well and has many of these configs already in the watch available?

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos if movescount is stopped how to get out the activities from the watch? If the app itself continues to work, ok, but if it stops it is the end. Also I guess someone who sometime ago spent 500eur on a Ambit 2 sapphire won’t want to be that basic that couldn’t change settings. As someone said previously, this is business, but I guess Suunto forgot who were the people that prefered Suunto, people who valued products that last, that were stable and which can be trusted. Just hope that Suunto offers a solution for pre Ambit 3 watches, or do some partnership with openambit.

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                                    crawff
                                    last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 20:29

                                    My Suunto Ambit 3 peak is a great watch that provides identical functionality to a spartan ultra - possibly better battery life than the spartan.

                                    I purchased it before there was a mobile app - then went through the debacle that was the implementation of a terrible app that didn’t work or sync - for the next 12 months.

                                    Have then dealt with a bunch of sync issues for large files that only third party open source people could fix.

                                    Have then been pushed to this app two months ago despite it being in beta, for it to completely fail and then forced back to movescount because it wasn’t working.

                                    Am now being told that i am being forced back to the suunto app.

                                    Then this press release that gives zero relevant detail as to what is going to happen, and that people with perfectly good old watches will basically have to buy new ones (think of the environment for a second!)

                                    This journey has been terrible! Why wouldn’t suunto just maintain functionality for all watches? and a desktop app.

                                    Without a doubt, the minute my watch or those with Ambit 2 and below are not supported any longer by suunto i will never come back as a customer and will never recommend to anyone again. and will likely do my best to spread this news to the world where i can.

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                                      jsuarez Bronze Member
                                      last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 20:38

                                      Pretty significant that there are a lot of users who have taken the time to register and post for the first time in this post
 Most likely quite indicative of what they are feeling.

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                                        awinkel Bronze Member @jsuarez
                                        last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 21:18

                                        @jsuarez
                                        And I think that are mostly people who has any knowledge about software and understand what the impact is

                                        There are a lot of people which doesn’t know what the impact could be and would be pissed off at a later moment.
                                        Suunto is making a very big failure now!
                                        That only way they could people more or less a little bit happy is to announce very soon that the older watches would be supported in any way and that there still will be exist a website for a more detailled overview of the training.
                                        Butt still many people would never buy a Suunto again after today.

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                                          jsuarez Bronze Member @awinkel
                                          last edited by 15 Jan 2019, 21:32

                                          @awinkel
                                          That is why corporations need to give full insights to their customers.

                                          If they had at least hinted what plans could materialise in 18 months time, it would have soothed many users. Even some of them would be happy.

                                          But if you are announcing that you will be pulling the plug in 18 months and don’t give additional information, you could have waited 6 more and announced the actual full plans for the outage in 12 months.

                                          In the end these watches are expected to have a long life. If nowadays people are keeping their phone 1 year more in average (which is hurting Samsung and Apple, for instance), why wouldn’t they make the same with their watches. Both the Ambits and the shiny Suunto 9 can provide the same functionality to many people.

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