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    • sartoricS Offline
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      OMG
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        Drjno @jthomi
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        @jthomi said in Important news concerning our digital services:

        @pcjmfranken
        I totally agree with you, don’t get me wrong. I was always hoping and rooting for a web interface, and like @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said above, our voice here is and will be heard.

        @jthomi said in Important news concerning our digital services:

        @pcjmfranken
        I totally agree with you, don’t get me wrong. I was always hoping and rooting for a web interface, and like @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said above, our voice here is and will be heard.

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          @sartoric said in Important news concerning our digital services:

          OMG
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          Best post. On so many levels.

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            Drjno @Alex Nedovizii
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            @Alex-Nedovizii said in Important news concerning our digital services:

            Well indeed!
            Moving forward is definitely for good, but - there is “but”, as always - and it is…

            Does the shutting down Movescount mean, that from mid-2020 I can throw my Ambit 2 Sapphire and my wife’s Ambit 2S out of the window? Watches still are insanely capable.

            What comes to my mind is an application to download recordings as .fit files to computer (here you have the codebase) and no need to keep the cloud service. At least this!!

            Sure, business needs and so on, but paying for two new watches out of the blue over €500 does not feel like a good idea. One of your heaviest competitors are allowing getting workouts simply by connecting watch to computer and having access to file system, where all .fit files are to be found…

            Greatly disappointed.
            Cheers
            Alex

            P.s.: sorry for reply, meant to entire thread but mis-clicked the button.

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              Jordi Galobart Konieczka @witchcraft
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              @witchcraft in my case 40th birthday present …

              Totally agree with you

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                ianishomer @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                We wont shoot the messenger, but we need clarification on what Suunto intends to do with the Ambit2 and ambit users after the turn off of Movescount.

                How will we load new moves etc.

                If your intention is to just disregard these users and hope they upgrade from a perfectly functional watch to a new over priced model, it may be worth mentioning to Mikko Moilanen, that we wont go easily and most of us will not upgrade if we are treated this way!

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                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                  @ianishomer said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                  Moilanen

                  more news will come out soon enough. Did you btw mean Tommi?

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                    Zdeněk Hruška Bronze Member @ColdBeer
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                    @ColdBeer I just asked for some reason he doesn’t need to explain me anything of course. I don’t know whether it’s because he doesn’t know how to do it or it’s complicated or whatever other reason he could have.
                    But Movescount is not decommissioned yet and there is this huge discussion full of anger and demands. And why? Can you import route to watch using Movescount? Yes. Can you do the same with SA? Yes.
                    I mean I am not saying that there are no issues with how is Suunto progressing with their new SA platform. And I am not saying I like everything they do right now. But it seems to me that everybody complains about things which are not even real issues at this moment.

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                      Jennifer Gothilander @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Oh my god. I was ok with Suunto app as an app but shutting Movescount down and monitoring all activities done (ever) is best done on a website. It’s impossible to get a proper overview and analysis over time in an app, unless you make an app for the desktop but then I will be “locked” to my own computer and can’t access it anywhere. IF (and I really hope not) you close Movescount, you have to (!!!) make it easy to transfer ALL old training data to some other place (like Strava) with basically one click. I moved my Garmin files to Movescount one by one when I bought a Suunto. And that was only a year or two of files. Still took quite some time. Moving all my old data from Movescount so somewhere else again, after… 8 years?! No way! And I’d be really sad to just drop that in the bin. I like statistics.

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                        A Former User @Jennifer Gothilander
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                        @Jennifer-Gothilander There are several solutions out there, both mobile and browser based, that sync workout data from one platform to the other. PhoneGap on iOS, SyncMyTracks on Android, and Tapiriik via web. It’s 2019. Please don’t move your data file by file. As per Movescount to Suunto transition, the data should flow automatically.

                        I wouldn’t be surprised if at the end, after all the fireworks here, a one time route sync happened too.

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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Jennifer Gothilander
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                          @Jennifer-Gothilander Noted thanks and understood well.

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                          • Jennifer GothilanderJ Offline
                            Jennifer Gothilander @Guest
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                            @NickK I don’t have them on my phone, I guess. I mean my Movescount data from like 2012. That’s on the website, but probably not in my app. And the web program didn’t go with Movescount. And even if, I’d have to sort all duplicates that’s already in Strava?

                            And I like to use a website to analyze year by year. I just kept Strava for cycling. But I guess that time is over…

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                              I think that this post is getting quite hot. Some are very upset but as @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos says this is the first communication, and I would think that Suunto will try to find the best solution to everybody. Suunto surely knows that these watches without connection is nothing.

                              If you read my posts you will see clearly which is my opinion on the Suunto App and how should evolve, but I think, as a lot of us, that MC had an end date and we should propose solutions and make clear what we expect instead of being only angry. Besides of posting here we can also send emails to Suunto support explaining what we expect and want.

                              IMO is good that Suunto has announced this so early, now we can push and let know or requests.

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                                ColdBeer @Jennifer Gothilander
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                                @Jennifer-Gothilander Just to studying other points of view (not preventing -still- a full migration) I configured today my SyncMyTracks registered app on my Android phone:
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                                Link: https://mega.nz/#!TN0V3YqD!B0NuLMVKu9NsSzNr5ibCzEVHY_BxJ24PwlgMX2ytmK8

                                var Watch="Garmin Forerunner 735XT", WatchFw="9.40";
                                var Phone="Samsung Galaxy S8", PhoneOS="Android 9.0.0";

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                                  jsuarez Bronze Member @cosme.costa
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                                  @cosmecosta said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                                  I think that this post is getting quite hot.

                                  Maybe at this time the guys at Suunto are thinking that pressing the “nuke” button was bold… LOL
                                  Let’s see how this evolves.

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                                    A Former User @jsuarez
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                                    @jsuarez The best part is they haven’t pressed anything. Just raised the possibility… Oh, the joy of internets! Some 15-20 years ago this would have gone smoothly and quietly. Not a cricket cry! If only Suunto were in time machine business…

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                                      A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Third party tools for route editing don’t support adding waypoints on routes or editing POIs. Is that something Suunto plans to quietly discontinue with Movescount?

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                                        @silentvoyager I think its in the plans waypoint support in routes. This information exists on GPX files afaik.

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                                          haydnw Bronze Member @Zdeněk Hruška
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                                          @Zdeněk-Hruška As an Ambit2 user, this will be impossible after the change, because the routes have to be transferred using the web interface.

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                                            The cancelation of the service is exactly what I feared and predicted. Of course I try to stay optimistic that Suunto is going to offer a service at least similar, better at least identical in the important services, better even if improved compared to the current MC.
                                            But - in a way this is what quite a number of members was asking for: a road map or you might even call it a vision. KUDOS!
                                            Nevertheless, as we have all seen, that one year (SA) is a very short time for major improvements concerning the implementation of really new services and features (but not to much time to fix issues/bugs and implement some features mostly by copying them), this seems to be quite a challenge.
                                            Although being a little sceptical, I am most certainly happy to be part and member of this developement (probably a critiquing member, most certainly not a critical 🙃)

                                            using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
                                            OS - Android 15/Pixel Pro 7

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