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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Digital service transition
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    • Shaun HubbardS Offline
      Shaun Hubbard @Zdeněk Hruška
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      @Zdeněk-Hruška Are they free? I’ve no interest in paying more. and it’s just another learning curve! another ‘‘thing’’ to do. Movescount works, why stop it?

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        A Former User @Zdeněk Hruška
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        @Zdeněk-Hruška because movescount does this today pretty well and with ease to save to any of your registered watches with one click?

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        • W Offline
          witchcraft
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          Very disappointed my Ambit is seemingly going to be bricked next year, it was my 50th birthday present and I use it every day. Frankly very annoyed and likely to buy a Garmin to replace it

          Ambit (1) and GPS TrackPod user

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Shaun Hubbard
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            @Shaun-Hubbard Hi I am trying to help here and as a Navigator and mountain guide there are tons of services that do better than MC routing for free. Search a bit this forum and you will find plenty of info. IF not I can guide you and show you some cool things.

            One thing I heard mentioned a couple of times here, and perhaps it helps:

            Movescount works, why stop it?

            Well if we would go about 2 years ago there were tons of complaints about MC web, however, it’s going away and I guess to do such a decision, though hard, will help Suunto.

            That said someone could say regarding my above paragraph:

            Who cares about Suunto, I bought my watch as a consumer with X,Y and now X is going away and that is not nice.

            I don’t think anyone at Suunto took this decision easily and Suunto is not a company that cares for the $$, only. There are people that consist that company passionate about their Sports and they are affected as well. There are people at Suunto with A2 and all the rest of the devices that are mentioned here.

            Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
            Creator of Quantified-Self.io
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            • Sean HermanyS Offline
              Sean Hermany @runningispain
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              @runningispain This is absolute garbage. They need to at minimum offer a downloadable tool to extract the GPX files from your device and do with the what you want, if not open source such a tool. This is basically planned obsolescence. I wish I could travel back in time and tell myself not to have bought a Suunto on the grounds that you’re completely locked in to their service to get data off of the device you own, but what’s done is done.

              AFAIK, this kind of thing is now illegal in France, maybe once they closedown Movescount and tell you you need to buy a new bluetooth enabled watch, someone from there will sue them.

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              • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Sean Hermany
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                @Sean-Hermany hey I am in France it’s not illegal.

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                • sartoricS Offline
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                  OMG
                  😁

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                    Drjno @jthomi
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                    @jthomi said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                    @pcjmfranken
                    I totally agree with you, don’t get me wrong. I was always hoping and rooting for a web interface, and like @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said above, our voice here is and will be heard.

                    @jthomi said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                    @pcjmfranken
                    I totally agree with you, don’t get me wrong. I was always hoping and rooting for a web interface, and like @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said above, our voice here is and will be heard.

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                      A Former User @sartoric
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                      @sartoric said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                      OMG
                      😁

                      Best post. On so many levels.

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                        Drjno @Alex Nedovizii
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                        @Alex-Nedovizii said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                        Well indeed!
                        Moving forward is definitely for good, but - there is “but”, as always - and it is…

                        Does the shutting down Movescount mean, that from mid-2020 I can throw my Ambit 2 Sapphire and my wife’s Ambit 2S out of the window? Watches still are insanely capable.

                        What comes to my mind is an application to download recordings as .fit files to computer (here you have the codebase) and no need to keep the cloud service. At least this!!

                        Sure, business needs and so on, but paying for two new watches out of the blue over €500 does not feel like a good idea. One of your heaviest competitors are allowing getting workouts simply by connecting watch to computer and having access to file system, where all .fit files are to be found…

                        Greatly disappointed.
                        Cheers
                        Alex

                        P.s.: sorry for reply, meant to entire thread but mis-clicked the button.

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                          Jordi Galobart Konieczka @witchcraft
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                          @witchcraft in my case 40th birthday present …

                          Totally agree with you

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                            ianishomer @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                            We wont shoot the messenger, but we need clarification on what Suunto intends to do with the Ambit2 and ambit users after the turn off of Movescount.

                            How will we load new moves etc.

                            If your intention is to just disregard these users and hope they upgrade from a perfectly functional watch to a new over priced model, it may be worth mentioning to Mikko Moilanen, that we wont go easily and most of us will not upgrade if we are treated this way!

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                            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @ianishomer
                              last edited by

                              @ianishomer said in Important news concerning our digital services:

                              Moilanen

                              more news will come out soon enough. Did you btw mean Tommi?

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                              • Zdeněk HruškaZ Offline
                                Zdeněk Hruška Bronze Member @ColdBeer
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                                @ColdBeer I just asked for some reason he doesn’t need to explain me anything of course. I don’t know whether it’s because he doesn’t know how to do it or it’s complicated or whatever other reason he could have.
                                But Movescount is not decommissioned yet and there is this huge discussion full of anger and demands. And why? Can you import route to watch using Movescount? Yes. Can you do the same with SA? Yes.
                                I mean I am not saying that there are no issues with how is Suunto progressing with their new SA platform. And I am not saying I like everything they do right now. But it seems to me that everybody complains about things which are not even real issues at this moment.

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                                • Jennifer GothilanderJ Offline
                                  Jennifer Gothilander @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Oh my god. I was ok with Suunto app as an app but shutting Movescount down and monitoring all activities done (ever) is best done on a website. It’s impossible to get a proper overview and analysis over time in an app, unless you make an app for the desktop but then I will be “locked” to my own computer and can’t access it anywhere. IF (and I really hope not) you close Movescount, you have to (!!!) make it easy to transfer ALL old training data to some other place (like Strava) with basically one click. I moved my Garmin files to Movescount one by one when I bought a Suunto. And that was only a year or two of files. Still took quite some time. Moving all my old data from Movescount so somewhere else again, after… 8 years?! No way! And I’d be really sad to just drop that in the bin. I like statistics.

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                                    A Former User @Jennifer Gothilander
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                                    @Jennifer-Gothilander There are several solutions out there, both mobile and browser based, that sync workout data from one platform to the other. PhoneGap on iOS, SyncMyTracks on Android, and Tapiriik via web. It’s 2019. Please don’t move your data file by file. As per Movescount to Suunto transition, the data should flow automatically.

                                    I wouldn’t be surprised if at the end, after all the fireworks here, a one time route sync happened too.

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                                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Jennifer Gothilander
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                                      @Jennifer-Gothilander Noted thanks and understood well.

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                                      • Jennifer GothilanderJ Offline
                                        Jennifer Gothilander @Guest
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                                        @NickK I don’t have them on my phone, I guess. I mean my Movescount data from like 2012. That’s on the website, but probably not in my app. And the web program didn’t go with Movescount. And even if, I’d have to sort all duplicates that’s already in Strava?

                                        And I like to use a website to analyze year by year. I just kept Strava for cycling. But I guess that time is over…

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                                        • cosme.costaC Offline
                                          cosme.costa
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                                          I think that this post is getting quite hot. Some are very upset but as @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos says this is the first communication, and I would think that Suunto will try to find the best solution to everybody. Suunto surely knows that these watches without connection is nothing.

                                          If you read my posts you will see clearly which is my opinion on the Suunto App and how should evolve, but I think, as a lot of us, that MC had an end date and we should propose solutions and make clear what we expect instead of being only angry. Besides of posting here we can also send emails to Suunto support explaining what we expect and want.

                                          IMO is good that Suunto has announced this so early, now we can push and let know or requests.

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                                          • ColdBeerC Offline
                                            ColdBeer @Jennifer Gothilander
                                            last edited by ColdBeer

                                            @Jennifer-Gothilander Just to studying other points of view (not preventing -still- a full migration) I configured today my SyncMyTracks registered app on my Android phone:
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                                            Link: https://mega.nz/#!TN0V3YqD!B0NuLMVKu9NsSzNr5ibCzEVHY_BxJ24PwlgMX2ytmK8

                                            var Watch="Garmin Forerunner 735XT", WatchFw="9.40";
                                            var Phone="Samsung Galaxy S8", PhoneOS="Android 9.0.0";

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