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    No possibility to quit and resume the Trekking activity: so DISAPPOINTED

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      dan21
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      Can I just ask why such a feature is needed? I had this on my Garmin when I did the Tour du Mont Blanc, which is a multi-day hike. I recorded each activity separately, as technically these are separate activities. Later on, I merged the GPX files to see the whole trek(just curious), but I prefer to keep them separate, as I slept between them, etc.

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        elbee @brechtvb
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        @brechtvb said:

        @elbee we all are puzzled on what the priority is. It would be interesting to see the results of the questionnaire that was sent out, and the delivery of features and bug fixes that came around.

        Oh, yeah. I would really like that. And why some bugs are left untouched for more than half a year. (and I think keeping a bluetooth connection to a heart rate sensor is some basic functionality)

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          aiv4r Silver Members @nico1234
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          @nico1234 You know what I am disappointed in? In people buying a watch for 600eur and coming here to complain that it does not have specific very important (for them) feature. You have 600eur to operate with, you can research which watch represents the things you would like to have and buy that one. You do not need to buy Suunto, you can buy Garmin/Coros/Polar that has the one function you need.

          We all have the functions we need and the functions we do not need and I would never buy a watch that does not have features I really need.

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            elbee @dan21
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            @dan21 said:

            Can I just ask why such a feature is needed? I had this on my Garmin when I did the Tour du Mont Blanc, which is a multi-day hike. I recorded each activity separately, as technically these are separate activities. Later on, I merged the GPX files to see the whole trek(just curious), but I prefer to keep them separate, as I slept between them, etc.

            I do some social rides on a bike and we have coffee half way. It’s convenient to use your watch as a watch during coffee break. And the gps is turned off, which saves battery life.
            Have to say, I recently bought a wahoo bike computer because a watch with oled screen isn’t the best for navigation on a bike. A mips watch I had earlier I could attach to my steer and the display would always be visible.

            Also, during all day hikes, it’s convenient and saves battery, if you could stop the recording during lunch break. (If you pause and activity on a suunto, the gps chip is still active).

            Personally, I would not use the resume later function for multiday events.

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              runyx17 @elbee
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              Yes, I wouldn’t use it for multi-day hikes either. But my use case might be different from others. I often run and stop somewhere to handle something, talk to people, or buy a few things. That is when this feature would be useful for me. The same goes for cycling.

              I used to have a Garmin where I used this feature, and I knew when I bought the Vertical 2 that it wouldn’t have it. I just wanted to say that this is the feature I miss the most, but I can live with it. Everyone is different and uses things differently.

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                snow*
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                I would prefer merging activities in SA, ymmv ofc.

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                  igalan @nico1234
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                  @nico1234 I agree, almost all brands now offer this function. I am testing an Amazfit Active 3 Premium, for 150€ this watch can save & resumen later, you can even go to the watch screen during an activity, open any of the apps and seamlessly go back to the activity without having any interruptions in it. Being blocked out of every function during and activity is not a good design decision no matter how you slice it.

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                    brechtvb Bronze Member @igalan
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                    @igalan you just destroyed everything here 😂

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                      2b2bff Gold Members
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                      I think if it is your first watch, you don’t even think about some functionality that is not there. If you already had a Watch before, you expect all the newer ones to include functionality that you are used to. And this is what people see as essential functionality. And other do not miss it.

                      Just as an example the other way around: If you have a Suunto, you are used to see running timers in the watch face, you are used to the auto sorting of sports mode for last recently used. Garmin - as the usual example - has neither of them. Sure, you can dedicate one data field to a running timer, but Suunto solves this way more elegant.

                      It’s just expectations…

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                        RichardM @runyx17
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                        I feel some sympathy with the OP - I bought the Vertical 2 a few months back for multi-day hikes in Scotland, as well as for fell running, parkruns and long bike rides. I felt a bit disappointed that I couldn’t use all the functions during a very long activity - after all, it is marketed as an Adventure watch!

                        I (thought I) did the research beforehand comparing with Garmin Fenix/Enduro, and felt the Suunto V2 was definitely right for me - the offline topo maps and insane battery life were the main things. But, overall, I wanted something simpler, robust and focussed on the task at hand rather than having contactless payments, phone calls, etc. So I am actually very happy with the V2, and I could always stitch together GPXs if I wanted.

                        However, I think one big problem is that Suunto’s documentation is really sparse, and they made a big marketing splash out of the flashlight - without making it clear it can’t be used in an activity! So I did miss the issue about not using all the functions in an activity.

                        One thing I would prefer rather than quit/resume is to be able to change things like GPS accuracy during a multi-day hike to save battery. Sometimes you want precise accuracy and to see all the map detail, but then you might be walking on an estate track for miles, and could just turn the accuracy to lowest.

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                          Stavrogin @2b2bff
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                          @2b2bff I agree with you 100%. Beyond that I feel like the initial post was pretty aggressive. We are a community of people who help others better understand their Suuntos. I am not sure if a random rant on this board will attract the attention from the main designers that you are hoping for. I am guessing they have long term strategies and planning that is not dictated by random posts on this forum.

                          Would it not be more productive to come here asking for help or work arounds from people who have been using Suuntos for years?

                          Interesting other info might be that even though Garmin has the feature I have had issues with it slowing down my watch going into a few days of the same activity. Even DC Rainmaker has spoken about how Garmin struggles with such large .fit files as they grow over so many miles.

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                            isazi Moderator @RichardM
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                            @RichardM said:
                            However, I think one big problem is that Suunto’s documentation is really sparse, and they made a big marketing splash out of the flashlight - without making it clear it can’t be used in an activity!

                            It can be used during activity. Just long press the bottom button and access the menu to enable it.

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                              MikeC30 Bronze Member @isazi
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                              @isazi

                              That does work although it is a bit clunky to do on the move. Once you’ve done it a couple of times muscle memory makes it more intuitive to use.

                              I would like to be able to customise what a long button press does during an activity like what can be done from the watch face but I do not know how easy this would be to implement in the firmware. A single long button push to turn on the led light during an activity would be fantastic.

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                                Elipsus Gold Members @jj-frl
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                                @jj-frl
                                Few things :

                                • Want to see battery status -> hit lower button for 2 sec to get the configuration panel, see batery
                                • Flashlight -> hit lower button for 2 sec to get the configuration panel, go down, enable flashlight
                                • For for temperature and forecast, you can set them as specific field in a personalized sport profile

                                So, its now only missing 3 points, maybe not that crippled ?

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                                  Sascha Domres Bronze Member @aiv4r
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                                  @aiv4r Where exactly is that? How do you want the customer to know? Sorry, but the criticism is justified. If you do not need this function, this is good for you. I think the disappointment of the user is absolutely understandable. Vertical2 is called an adventure Watch with a super long runtime, a function like the „Later Continue“ seems very essential to me. Even if I rarely hikings for several days at a time, I also looked for this function. And if only during an extended break.
                                  Why is it so opposed to criticism? Let the user decide whether the tracking is paused all the time or if you go into the desired mode Continue later. Ultimately, this would be a useful further development that increases the range of functions of the watch. The customer has described the benefits well.

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                                    RichardM @MikeC30
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                                    @MikeC30 Thanks! Just been for a test walk, and that works fine. Also realised the GPS mode can be changed while navigating, so that’s solved my problems. Feel like I am understanding how the watch works a bit more now. Thanks, Richard

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                                      aiv4r Silver Members @Sascha Domres
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                                      @Sascha-Domres i think you might have misunderstood my comments point, but anyway. It is fine to be dissapointed, it is not fine to create posts like that, it comes out as abit aggresive and rude.
                                      “Resume later” is in no way an essential feature for any watch in the world would it be 100eur or 1000eur watch. I would understand if we would be talking about sportswatch that does not track GPS or smth, in that case I would agree that critisism is well placed.
                                      My point was that I think 600eur is a lot of money and I would be very careful where I put that and if “Resume later” is such an important function, please check before buying (forum exists, reddit exits, ask chatGPT eventualy, sometimes it is correct).

                                      We can discuss forever if it is useful feature or not, but that is another discussion and it was suggested like a million times, just search this forum.

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                                        Sascha Domres Bronze Member @aiv4r
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                                        @aiv4r I thank you for your clarification and certainly everyone has their own ideas. I find the described area of application of the user really comprehensible with an adventure watch. The recording over several days or the “continue later” is a scenario that seems very plausible to me. It is actually a pity that I can only pause the activity. So while the activity is paused I can’t look at the standard widgets like timer, weather, tide etc… certainly there are workarounds or Suunto plus apps but I have to have set them up beforehand. I see a limitation here and definitely potential for improvement.
                                        It may be that the user’s criticism was partly emotional. However, the feedback is still justified. And should Suunto programmers be here in the forum, this criticism is meaningful and important. Anyone who advertises a watch as an “adventure” watch should hear exactly this feedback. Different users different needs. Maybe not yours, maybe not mine. But the desire for the best possible product is understandable. Incidentally, this is not described transparently in the product description.I often have the impression here in the forum that criticism and wishes is an strong trigger. The current stand is defended … I don’t need that, I don’t want that etc. Why they do so vehemently refuse to expand the range of functions? I also don’t scold zonesense just because I don’t use it… I’m always happy when the Watch is extended. And yes I know there is no right to feature extensions. But we have 2026 and no analog watch. The competitors seem to be more flexible in some respects. The development of the competitors is clear and I would find it a shame if Suunto would miss the connection here…

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                                          2b2bff Gold Members @Sascha Domres
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                                          @Sascha-Domres said:

                                          certainly there are workarounds or Suunto plus apps but I have to have set them up beforehand.

                                          You might have missed this, but you can change them during the workout. Like you can change your route that you are navigating on…

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                                            RichardM @2b2bff
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                                            @2b2bff Thanks, that’s really helpful to know, I didn’t realise you could add or remove apps while in an activity. I think half the problem is that Suunto’s “documentation” is so light - for example, the V2 User guide has just one page on sports apps (https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Support/Product-support/suunto_vertical-2/suunto_vertical-2/suuntoplus-sports-apps/) and it implies that you have to set them up first. I’ve found out a lot today from the people in this forum, which is great, but it does make me think that Suunto could do a better job of providing a decent manual with examples covering various scenarios for different sports. The V2 “user guide” has obviously just been copied from the V1 and edited a bit - for example, it mentions a solar version, even though that’s V1.

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