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    sartoric Moderator
    last edited by sartoric 1 May 2019, 18:49 5 Jan 2019, 18:47

    I’ve searched the old topics but i didn’t find anything about this “issue”

    This morning I started an activity navigating a route I’ve made (for test) via SA.
    After a while , once checked the values for the test, I switched to the “correct” route.

    From that point on, the altimetric profile, that usually shows where you are, looked frozen to the beginning of the track even if the altimeter was correctly reporting the altitude.

    Anyone alse faced this issue ?
    I’m wondering if it’s due to navigation target switch, or to the fact that the first route was made via SA (with POI issue)

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      Brad_Olwin Moderator
      last edited by 6 Jan 2019, 01:26

      Was the correct route made in MC? Could you give more info?

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        sartoric Moderator
        last edited by sartoric 1 Jun 2019, 12:18 6 Jan 2019, 11:14

        The “correct” one is an imported GPX and the path is exactly the same (ok maybe there is a very little difference in start/end point.

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        It seems that even if the altimeter was working correctly, the alt gain is a bit less than expected, maybe it just miss the gain from the “wrong” route navigation.
        Out of curiosity, is ascent calculated on the overall or it’s non calculated when paused ? Sometimes I forget to resume recording 😄

        I must say that I’ve never used the “correct” route before and I didn’t want to stop / restart the activity up in the mountains to “reload” the route.

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          sartoric Moderator
          last edited by 1 May 2019, 19:38

          Today I had to switch route during activity (due to iced trail and no crampons 😄 ) and I faced the same issue.
          Altitude graph frozen and route ETA and ETE always showing - - 😄
          The activity was paused when I did it

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
          I supposed this was fixed some time ago (https://forum.suunto.com/topic/1657/planned-route-strange-altimetric-profile-and-waypoint/21) maybe the last SA Update re-introduced this problem ?

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sartoric
            last edited by 1 May 2019, 19:43

            @sartoric Hmm so it was bad values during the activity right?
            If you had – that should not SA problem

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              sartoric Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by 1 May 2019, 19:44

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Activity - Navigation : "frozen" altimetric profile:

              @sartoric Hmm so it was bad values during the activity right?
              If you had – that should not SA problem

              What do you mean for bad values ?

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sartoric
                last edited by 1 May 2019, 19:44

                @sartoric the –

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sartoric
                  last edited by 1 May 2019, 19:44

                  @sartoric sorry

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                    sartoric Moderator
                    last edited by sartoric 5 Jan 2019, 20:31 1 May 2019, 20:29

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                    Well, in fact the watch wasn’t able to evaluate ETA/ETE, but it worked using the 1st route and route view was tracking me correctly even if gps was some meters off (had the same problem on my previous activity).
                    The altimeter was a bit off too (1st time, never had issue before) something around 80 meters.

                    1st route is a gpx import
                    2nd route was made on the fly on the peak with SA

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sartoric
                      last edited by 1 May 2019, 20:31

                      @sartoric hmm. Was the route on the fly aka I synced it while on exercise?

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                        sartoric Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by 1 May 2019, 20:33

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                        Yep, sync when activity was pause

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                          sartoric Moderator @sartoric
                          last edited by sartoric 5 Jan 2019, 20:44 1 May 2019, 20:44

                          @sartoric
                          1 additional note
                          I’ve just seen that after I synced the activity all the 3 routes I had on the watch were removed, but in the app I can see the toggle “on”.
                          Nor Auto-sync or manual sync sent the routes back to the watch

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sartoric
                            last edited by 1 May 2019, 20:46

                            @sartoric thanks for this info. I have to ask about his. I mark this thread as unread and reply once I gather more info. Add anything you like here 🙂

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                              sartoric Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 1 May 2019, 20:54

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
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                                Brad_Olwin Moderator
                                last edited by 2 May 2019, 17:15

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @sartoric I tested this yesterday and faithfully replicated this issue. If switching from one route to another the altitude profile locks out and does not change even though the route screen has switched and is working correctly. A fix to this is instead of route to route, if one switches from route to breadcrumb (short time) then to the new route all works as it should. Thought I would let you both know.

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Brad_Olwin
                                  last edited by 2 May 2019, 18:08

                                  @Brad_Olwin thanks for validating this! Great.

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Brad_Olwin
                                    last edited by 2 May 2019, 18:09

                                    @Brad_Olwin did you sync the route while on one activity (recording) or you had already those 2 routes you switched between already synced to the watch?

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                                      sartoric Moderator @Brad_Olwin
                                      last edited by sartoric 5 Feb 2019, 22:22 2 May 2019, 18:31

                                      @Brad_Olwin said in Activity - Navigation : "frozen" altimetric profile:

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @sartoric A fix to this is instead of route to route, if one switches from route to breadcrumb (short time) then to the new route all works as it should. Thought I would let you both know.

                                      Good to know. I usually notice this after a while and I never stop to try some workaround.

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                                        last edited by 5 Jun 2019, 20:52

                                        Hey,
                                        I have also the issue… each time i switch route to another, the graph is updated, but my position is stuck at the end of the graph… I will try the solution mentioned by @Brad_Olwin.

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                                        One other things, it could be nice to have zoom and automatic zoom on the altimeter profile view like in track screen.

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                                          Jordi Nunez @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 6 Jun 2019, 07:40

                                          @Brad_Olwin Wow! I experienced this issue two times. I thought it was an issue with the .gpx or something in an specific zone because it happened at the same mountain. I was going down from the top to my car but the altitude graph got stuck in the top of the mountain but I was able to follow the path to my car. Two times happened this to me at the same mountain. And now that you mention it, both times I swithced the route in the middle of the move… so It seem sthe same. Thanks for the trick to fix it on the move.

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