April Transition Update
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@Jonathan-Lander said in April Transition Update:
I will add to what I said in the initial announcement thread. Suunto, please give me the ability to make routes and waypoints through a web interface on a computer rather than only through an interface on a phone. Planning major backcountry routes through a tiny interface without easy access to online maps and other sources prior to trips will drive me away. Thank you.
You can do this already!!! I don’t understand what is preventing you from drawing a route on any web page that supports GPX export. Then import into SA. This is how I do it. What is missing are waypoints and we do need them.
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What is missing is this exactly. Plan your routes on ANY website.
Whereas before we had the known MC quality (for better or for worse), now I have to figure out which website has or has not got the same features as MC, register an account, learn the quirks etc.Suunto took something that just worked and made it more difficult.
I recently tried to create a route of 1,5K on a website that was mentioned in the third party tools thread. Long story short, thank God for MC’s snap to existing road feature or I would be still lost.
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@Yannis-Belouris said in April Transition Update:
I recently tried to create a route of 1,5K on a website that was mentioned in the third party tools thread. Long story short, thank God for MC’s snap to existing road feature or I would be still lost.
Out of curiosity, which one ?
I’ve used different websites (gpsies, komoot, gaia) and even basecamp but I didn’t face particular issues. -
@Yannis-Belouris said in April Transition Update:
I recently tried to create a route of 1,5K on a website that was mentioned in the third party tools thread. Long story short, thank God for MC’s snap to existing road feature or I would be still lost
Personally speaking, the snap to existing road feature is why I can’t use MC for mapping routes. There’s loads of trails it doesn’t recognise that I know are there, so going from point A to B along a trail can’t be done, MC has me going miles around instead! Never used it because of this.
MC is overrated.
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@Yannis-Belouris ANY website may not work but every single one I have tried works and all of them snap to roads and trails.
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@Brad_Olwin I used openrunner. Probably tried for half an hour. Did not find a way to snap to roads, maybe there was but I was in a hurry.
And to make my point clear, openrunner may be better than MC but please think of the average user.
They need to know of openrunner (is it good for trails in Greece? Who knows…, then create a new account, learn how to use the website, export gpx, import to suunto watch.
Which of the above steps is not an added step that was not needed before?Not to mention that currently I can prepare a route and upload it to friends movescount accounts (I have their login info) without them having to do anything.
Let’s try to think about the average user hereAll this defense because of no web interface…
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@Yannis-Belouris
You’re not using SA for routes, correct ? -
@someguythatruns ùyou can turn of the snap to road feature…
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So we are now 16+ days into May.
Where is the May update? -
@almic This year, May has 31 days
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The S9 limited ed. RedBull will be shipped the 23.
Perhaps the next firmware come with it?Or at the same time of the Sunnto 5 will be released.
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@Mi_chael
redbull limited?
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@almic said in April Transition Update:
So we are now 16+ days into May.
Where is the May update?What May update? When and where was it announced?
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@General_Witt
Update about services … not FW or SA update -
@Yannis-Belouris You’re right. It seems that Suunto is afraid of making a fool of himself because he can not develop a web in conditions and only relies on third party applications and websites.
And those of us who have trusted Suunto are still waiting for a good website while they launch Suunto 9 Special Edition RedBull.
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Suunto is talking about some updates happening in Mai, see here:
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/2382/april-transition-update
@General_Witt said in April Transition Update:
What May update? When and where was it announced?
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@Nutet
I don’t want to move the redbull limited edition in the focus here… but I wonder how many people dare to buy it without knowing how the SA will evolve and if and how a web interface would look like?!
I am not as pessimistic with all these changes as I was when I first heard of it, to be honest. But I wonder who is buying a limited edition Suunto watch at the moment. It would either be real Suunto fans, but they know same as we do that there is no web interface existing. Or it’s gambling like on the stock exchange market… you buy one and hope SA and web interface will become top notch and you either keep it or it’s hopeless and you toss it in the bin…What I want to say: it is a real strange moment to release a limited watch. OR it is a strategic step
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@TELE-HO said in April Transition Update:
What I want to say: it is a real strange moment to release a limited watch. OR it is a strategic step
I think the best strategic step is to have the customers happy to have bought a product and listen to what they think of it to have them satisfied.
I’ve been a seller for many years and I think I know what I’m talking about.
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@Nutet
yes it is no question that the customer pays a company.
A nice new watch attracts more customers. (Ok, I admit, I like the redbull design …it’s my favourite design after the A3 Peak Sapphire… ).
But if a new product has big disadvantages customers will think twice to buy it. In this case it is uncertain in which direction the web interface is heading to. If I buy a new Suunto today, I would want to know how the software for analysis looks.I’m pretty sure Suunto is working on that and will surprise us all with more updates.
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@pescacebesforum Thanks! Captain Obvious.