Suunto 5

Václav Král

@silentvoyager OMG. I would never take a watch without OHR. S9 works fine, 24/7 OHR is super COOL and during running and hiking is very useful. And where OHR fails, I can use HR strap.
But I don´t want never ever sporttester without OHR.

@Václav-Král said in Suunto 5:

@silentvoyager OMG. I would never take a watch without OHR. S9 works fine, 24/7 OHR is super COOL and during running and hiking is very useful. And where OHR fails, I can use HR strap.
But I don´t want never ever sporttester without OHR.

Are you absolutely sure you are getting correct results? I ran with a HR belt for many years, so I know quite well what kind of HR I should have for different levels of effort. It takes a lot of effort for me to push my HR above 165, and more typically it is in 140-150 range. But with optical HR it goes straight to 170-190 range and pretty much stays there, occasionally going above 200. So basically it measures my cadence rather than HR. Occasionally it drops to the correct HR but at least 75% percent of the time it is wrong. I tried many different suggestions how to make it more reliable, but short of shaving my arms, which I won’t do, the results are the same As I said, I also looked at a few other runners who I know are running with S9, and see the same thing.

If you are young and have a short history of running, your typical HR ranges could be fairly close to your cadence, so you may not know if you are getting correct values or not.

Armin S.

@zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

could it be better if suunto 9 = 7, suunto 9 baro =9;
so we already have 3 5 7 9?

I do not think they will rename existing models. Rather, I believe that the new S5 with baro etc. will be later the next S7.

zhang965

@Armin-S said in Suunto 5:

@zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

could it be better if suunto 9 = 7, suunto 9 baro =9;
so we already have 3 5 7 9?

I do not think they will rename existing models. Rather, I believe that the new S5 with baro etc. will be later the next S7.

yes but they renamed once suunto 9 to suunto 9 baro

Egika

@zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

@Armin-S said in Suunto 5:

@zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

could it be better if suunto 9 = 7, suunto 9 baro =9;
so we already have 3 5 7 9?

I do not think they will rename existing models. Rather, I believe that the new S5 with baro etc. will be later the next S7.

yes but they renamed once suunto 9 to suunto 9 baro

and I thought both exist in parallel ?

zhang965

@Egika
Yes but initially suunto 9 has baro, just months after they showed a suunto 9 without baro and renamed old 9 to 9 baro

zhang965

Suunto 9 Baro
Just released in June 2018 so don’t expect a replacement before 2020 This is the device reviewed as “Suunto 9” by most reviewers, but is not the newer, crapper Suunto 9

Suunto 9
Just released in September 2018 so don’t expect a replacement before 2020. This is the name in all the reviews, but a newer, slightly crap version of the device. Buyer beware, make sure you know what you’re buying. Yes, Suunto do have a watch called the Suunto 9 in both mid-range and high-end. Madness.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

Yes, Suunto do have a watch called the Suunto 9 in both mid-range and high-end.

what do you mean? How is the non baro version mid range if I understand correctly ?

zhang965

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 5:

@zhang965 said in Suunto 5:

Yes, Suunto do have a watch called the Suunto 9 in both mid-range and high-end.

what do you mean? How is the non baro version mid range if I understand correctly ?

I just copied it from GPS rumors

suzzlo

I think Suunto 7, will be Spartan Sport evolution (sure you think same) and this model has 3 variants: Normal/Wrist/Baro

Non Wrist model makes no sense, so I think, we could see 4 models

Suunto 5 => Baro and Non Baro
Suunto 7 => Baro and Non Baro

Differences between 5 and 7 should come (from my perspective) in:

Design => based on SSS, no external antenna
Battery => battery between 5 and 9
Firstbeat => they could add Training Load, or other…

We will see

BR

dulko79

@suzzlo what about price difference between 5 and 7?

zhang965

@suzzlo said in Suunto 5:

I think Suunto 7, will be Spartan Sport evolution (sure you think same) and this model has 3 variants: Normal/Wrist/Baro

Non Wrist model makes no sense, so I think, we could see 4 models

Suunto 5 => Baro and Non Baro

Suunto 7 => Baro and Non Baro

Differences between 5 and 7 should come (from my perspective) in:

Design => based on SSS, no external antenna

Battery => battery between 5 and 9

Firstbeat => they could add Training Load, or other…

We will see

BR

Why they add more firstbeat features to 7? If I followed the 3 5 9 logic, 7 should have less firstbeat features and 9 has non firstbeat features

suzzlo

@dulko79

S3 -> 200
S5 -> 300
S7 -> 450
S9 -> 600

makes sense?

zhang965

@suzzlo so S7 baro is upper than s9’s price?
S5 baro is upper than s7?

suzzlo

@zhang965 the S7 should have 8 Firstbeat features, since 5 has 6 (https://www.firstbeat.com/en/consumer-product/suunto/suunto-5/)

suzzlo

@zhang965 no idea, I’m just saying what makes sense to me, no info here, just hopes!

Armin S.

@suzzlo said in Suunto 5:

@zhang965 the S7 should have 8 Firstbeat features, since 5 has 6 (https://www.firstbeat.com/en/consumer-product/suunto/suunto-5/)

… or 18 features like Forerunner 945

zhang965

@Armin-S said in Suunto 5:

@suzzlo said in Suunto 5:

@zhang965 the S7 should have 8 Firstbeat features, since 5 has 6 (https://www.firstbeat.com/en/consumer-product/suunto/suunto-5/)

… or 18 features like Forerunner 945

Or a new model called suunto 18 with all of 18 firstbeat features?

dulko79

@suzzlo 150 jump from 300 to 450 seems a bit steep for better materials, compass, better battery…unless more FB features are added to 7. What about release date?

zhang965

@dulko79 said in Suunto 5:

@suzzlo 150 jump from 300 to 450 seems a bit steep for better materials, compass, better battery…unless more FB features are added to 7. What about release date?

It’s just a guess from suzzlo