Future S9 firmware wishlist summary

Fenr1r

@Brad_Olwin Short version: I’ve nothing against the Dual App Solution (worst prog rock band ever). It is just that the watch could be more. Navigationally, the Fenix is. In remote areas, why require a second potential tech failure point? Or drain two batteries via BT (and a display) rather than one.

Longer version I’ve PM’d to avoid clogging this thread. Bit of a screed but explains the usage cases/arguments.

Fatih Kale

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Fatih Kale

@TELE-HO said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

while I enjoy the latest S9 firmware, I don’t want to make an ungrateful impression…
But I’d like that we summarize some suggestions as a list…

light button in watch/activity mode (no unlocking)

lockbutton in watch mode (e. g. 3sec press)

swipe left-right to flip screens in activity

toggle satellite systems on-off independently

HR info (and pace?) in navigation screen

longer duration of vibration for alarm

FW update by bluetooth and SA

blood oxygen saturation (in case Valencell is ready for this?)

anything else?!

Just a little addition

On Navigation Screen
Data Field for “Distance covered / Total distance (If route is used)”

freeheeler

I know I mentioned a proper lock in watchmode already… this becomes more relevant in wintertime I noticed today.
During summer I only need to lock my watch in activities to prevent unwanted button press while I’m working hard
… but in winter I use gloves everyday and sleeves of winterjackets are also bulky… all these help to do unwanted button press…
I know by own experience that scandinavians only wear hats and gloves when it starts getting cold (like - 20°C) but it would be cool to add this before winter is over

freeheeler

… this lock in watch mode would be also good when for swimming in the lake or pool… because I was in watch mode and wanted to switch from alti to battery icon I had to “unlock” the screen.
But then the touch does never get deactivated because water keeps the touch active and the auto “lock” never kicks in.
locking manually would really help here

freeheeler

showing a flashing heart symbol next to HR value in the rhythm as HR is measured as a possibility to double check if OHR is measured correctly

BKtoo

@TELE-HO the light buttom in exercise is solved in option-battery- custom battery- touch screen. Then you just tap the screen to make the light go on fore some sek.

freeheeler

@KnutB
I wish for a light button in watch mode and a manual lock button in watch mode…
and while I think of my original post and swipe left-right is possible it would be good to make swipe possible in activity mode even when buttons are locked…
or long story short: make a toggle to choose if you like to lock only buttons, only touch or both

A Former User

@KnutB said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

@TELE-HO the light buttom in exercise is solved in option-battery- custom battery- touch screen. Then you just tap the screen to make the light go on fore some sek.

Until it rains… Good luck with using the touch screen when it is wet.

freeheeler

@silentvoyager
that’s why lock should be possible to toggle for buttons and/or touch

maybe long press lower button lock buttons and longpress upper button lock touch?

BKtoo

@TELE-HO think the best thing would be that the first push of the middle button activates light. Next press activates screen switching (same as in clock mode)

Brad_Olwin

@KnutB said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

@TELE-HO think the best thing would be that the first push of the middle button activates light. Next press activates screen switching (same as in clock mode)

I think this is a bad idea as those (me) wanting long battery life would be activating the light a lot and battery life for long events would be seriously affected. Sorry, but I think the negatives for this are far worse than positives.

freeheeler

@Brad_Olwin
that is also true…
in general it would be good to have more customization of button behaviour. I see a lot of people have different requirements even for the basically same type of sport.
I noticed that I will not need switch on and off lights during an activity. If I go for a run at night 30% backlight permanent on is plenty of light to see the display even with a blinding/reflecting headlamp.
Right now I do a batterylife test with 24h HR and standby light on. (it seems standby light is what it is and not adjustable?)
But for me it’s good enough without the standby light.

BKtoo

@Brad_Olwin but the backlight is activated anyway when you push the middle button. So I can see that the battery drain will increase? The only difference is that the first push on the middle button does not enable display switching, but only backlight.

stromdiddily

Improved notification process
Dismiss/delete notification from the watch itself
Not repeat notifications if a new one comes in and the previous had not been cleared on the phone
Improved contrast for navigation lines when theme is set to “light” (blue works well against black but is a bit tough with a white background)
Configurable nav screen (related to yours above but personally care more about duration/distance/lap pace)

freeheeler

and now something completely different…
… sync on demand?
… lock in watch mode?

hope there will soon be another FW update…
meanwhile I am more looking forward for FW updates than SA updates

freeheeler

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos can we merge these threads?
https://forum.suunto.com/topic/2032/s9-baro-wishlist/101

A Former User

Still waiting on a fix for broken navigation arrows. Navigation must stick much much better to the planned route and not change it at will.
Zooming navigation screen in locked mode.
An option for choosing between smart recording and true one second recording per sport mode. 1 second recording should also ensure updating the distance every second.
More accurate calculation of vertical ascent and descent. The latest firmware did that the wrong way in my opinion.
Custom sport modes must inherit settings like GPS mode and breadcrumbs from the base sport modes they are created from. We shouldn’t have to use custom battery modes to turn GPS off because we don’t have to do that for the basic sport modes.
Breadcrumbs customizable per sport mode rather than globally as it is currently.
Remove popup about the watch being locked and replace it with a smaller permanently visible icon. That will allow e. g. to use the lower button for backlight.
Add confirmation for changing battery modes by the upper button. Pressing the upper button should bring a list of all power modes. That will work much better for users who are color blind and for everyone else who change the power modes accidentally all the time.
Add zooming for HR and elevation graphs and remember the zoom level per sport mode. That will finally make those graphs usable. Zooming will change the time scale. Bonus points for allowing the zoom controls to work in locked mode.
Add extra navigation screen for the next waypoint and/or end of the route. The screen should display all necessary details like remaining distance on route (or off route when not on route), waypoint name, elevation difference, ETA/ETE, etc. See below for my proposal for switching between navigation views.
Since there may be up to 3 navigation specific views I propose to move them out of the main screen rotation by the middle button and replace that with a single navigation screen with 3 views: route / breadcrumbs, elevation profile, and waypoint details. Switching between navigation views should be done by pressing the lower button. And accessing the navigation menu - by long press on the lower button.
When not in activity, allow users to stay in all non-menu screens for as long as needed - HR, altitude, steps, etc. Or at least add an option for the timeout before jumping back to the main screen.

We need more options to customize the watch the way we want to use it and not the way someone in Suunto decided for us. Do you see a pattern here? A lot of feature requests here are about adding more options for already existing features.

freeheeler

@silentvoyager said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:

Custom sport modes must inherit settings like GPS mode

and use baro mode for alti “stationary” sports, like SUP, swim and gym stuff…

great list!!
hope Suunto will concentrate more on this than on SuuntoPlus… SP was mentioned for few days and some ideas were posted but I have the feeling that as soon as it was clear that SP will not contain structured intervalls, people did not know what more to request apart from a climbing screen and a ghost runner…

freeheeler

@silentvoyager
for some or a lot of people too much of setup will be a disadvantage. either they will be overstrained or they messup the settings and don’t know what the watch is actually doing (ok, honestly we don’t know exactly either, we can just guess on certain topics).
this thought took me to the suggestion to create a default mode and an expert mode.
it could be done on 2 levels. if expert mode is selected you have to setup everything yourself: baro or alti profile, recording intervall for location, alti threshold, individual touch and/or button lock… and stuff like that.
if you select default mode, you should be able to select expert mode for sport modes only and separately for each sport mode. like an expert toggle in the sport mode setup.

and while I am writing this. all the settings should be managable thru SA.
today we have to setup sport modes and notification settings in SA and all the rest in the watch. all could be done from SA