Suunto 7

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

You know me. I am a Suunto guy. I was given many other smartwatches (Android wear) before I used the S7

A friend asked why S7 over other Android wear and yes the price looks high imo.

Here is what I replied

1. More battery life. Only the Suunto watch (currently uses the low sport mode processor from qualcomm)
2. Better build quality. I can drop my suunto (ask for video) from the 1st floor and will be ok 
3. Better OHR. Suunto has the leading OHR here, with even proximity sensor 
4. Suunto app integration and analysis + partners. Tell me if the Xiaomi sends data to Training peaks or relive 
5. Waterproof to 50m 
6. Swimming support as your spartan does 
7. Global company + support + service (not china and distributors) 
8. Updates that most manufactures dont bring (remember it's Google + Suunto + Qualcomm not only Suunto) 
9. Secure Gpay via proximity sensor and skin detection sensors (you dont need to unlock  use pin if you wear the watch)
10. Barometer + tons of sensors 
11. Better display 
12. Design
13. Suunto watch-faces that work all the time showing even seconds without battery drop! (also use the special processor) 
14. An ecosystem of watches, if you uprgade your watch you go to s9 etc 
15. Always on low power full color Amoled screen.

-  Maps maps map for free! And automatically downloaded! 

That are my pros.

Cons: Battery life

I use personally all the time the powesaving on. This way I can get about 7 days of usage but nothing on the watch else than just the time. Literally nothing else.

And hey. I am opinionated here. Don’t trust the devil.

[A Former User]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Looks very much like the list I create when I need to persuade myself to drop $499 on yet another watch

I think for a full blown smartwatch that does full notifications, email app integration, and all, on 1.4" high-res screen that fires up to 1000 nits I can definitely live with charge every day or two scenario. So, battery life isn’t an issue for me. I’d even cry a bit, cut my Starbucks card in half, and eat the price. But sensors… sport mode customization… running power… FirstBeat bits…

I have S9 and understand I can swap the watches, but I’d rather minimize it.

[Saketo Nemo]

@NickK said in Suunto 7:

Assomiglia molto all’elenco che creo quando devo convincermi a perdere $ 499 su un altro orologio

I know something !

[Fenr1r]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Given your list and the solidity/capability/aesthetics blend of the device, I feel that this is the sort of watch Bond might be issued to replace the Omega. The Suunto 007. Get to it, Suunto product placers.

(There are battery issues, yes, but charging comes from the same magic place as spare ammo. And music.)

[freeheeler]

@Fenr1r
from body heat transformed into electric power

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@TELE-HO there is the Matrix watch that actually does this.

[Jonathan Newby]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos really?

[freeheeler]

@Jonathan-Newby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSaMcCa6bLE
Dimitrios aka Wikipedia of GPS watches

[Saketo Nemo]

oh god! I missed it!

[Fenr1r]

@TELE-HO I thought about that but you know how disappointed folk can be about hinted-at features. Especially Suunto folk.

Closer to the reality, Bond might have to call up the right sport modes (Running->Running-Shooting->Running-Shooting-Pistol->Running-Shooting-Pistol-While Strangling Attack Walrus).

Possibly too much detail. Let the filmmakers show him remotely piloting a Stealth Gyrocopter or using Spynder or something.

[freeheeler]

since Suunto recently preferes jointventures, why not with matrix?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@TELE-HO joint-Adventures … aha…

[oeagleo]

For those who can remember, Polar tried a WearOS watch in the (I think it was called the M630, or something like that). I “pre-ordered” one, thought it would be pretty cool, and at least something more than that “toy” Apple Watch. I owned it for about a week, and decided no. Now, Suunto is coming out with essentially a crippled version of that watch, no external sensors, not even an external HR monitor, even Apple will let you pair external HR monitors!. New, and unproven optical HR, that has been tried before, and abandoned, for whatever reason… I can only ask, “What were they thinking”? You’re not even going to pull Apple watch users with this one, at least with FitIV Pulse, and “WorkOutDoors”, the Apple watch approaches the Fenix in abilities. I have to wonder about this offering… Just my 2c worth, but I think they’re making a mistake with this one…

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

btw since now its out… Did you remember that actually the s7 was leaked here and everyone thought it was a joke ?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@oeagleo read above @NickK said clearly.

That said the m600 is nothing compared to the s7 how did you make that conclusion ?

[oeagleo]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Aren’t they both using WearOS? That was my point, the WearOS on the Polar was a disaster in my opinion, that’s why it went back so quickly. I honestly think that perhaps Suunto should build on the S9, make the baro standard, and further develop a good working “apps” environment, and keep on tweaking. I don’t think there’s any other Suunto product that can compete with the S9, and the S7 really doesn’t have a place among a “Suunto” crowd. Just my opinion, and actually, having owned an Apple Series 4 watch, with the above mentioned apps, the Apple would really put down the S7 in a heartbeat. Right now, because of the disaster I had with the Spartans I had, and the “idiosyncrasies”, I’m using a Fenix 6 Pro Sapphire, and like it. That’s not to say I couldn’t be swayed, but the internal maps, reduced size, and other features like SpO2, Respiration, and Body Battery, really impress me with their accuracy.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@oeagleo ah in that sense… Yes still kinda but yes. At that point (I bought the m600 and I also had the moto360sport my very first watch, after I went to m400) the wear OS did’t even have the playstore. Was really really bad. Agreed on this, its a bit better atm but still Google needs to spend more love, more than it spent with Suunto

[Luís Pinto]

@oeagleo Curious thing is polar adopt in M600 WearOS, but nevermore put that. Not in Vantage and not in Ignite that have probably amoled screen ou equivalent.

[oeagleo]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Seems we have crawled along the same paths, I too initially started with a Garmin 910? The old square watch that would quit on it’s own, graduated to the Polar M600, then to the M400, then to the V800, Suunto Ambit 2, 3, Garmin Fenix 3, 3HR, Suunto Spartan series, Sport, Sport HR, Wrist HR Baro, back to Fenix 5, 5+, and now the 6… WIth a few Apple watches thrown in there too, Series 2, 2 Stainless, 3 Stainless, and Series 4. It’s been a lot of money but it’s also been a lot of fun… Being a data junkie at heart, it’s been a lot of fun comparing the different data…

[A Former User]

@oeagleo I used M600 from when it was released in September 2016 through most of 2017. The battery life was solid for a smartwatch. I typically charged it once every couple of days. Maybe once per day if I had heavy training or outdoor runs. The OHR was great (it’s the same sensor array that’s packaged in OH1, by the way). The structured workouts implementation was the best among all Polar watches: not only did you get the full support for them, but you could also easily skip one or more steps with just a few taps. The bright screen that could be configured to be always on made training in any environments so much better. Then of course, you had music. Google Music, third party players, Pandora offline. Way before Garmin. Way before Fitbit.

Yes, M600 was no design award winner (they wanted it to be reminiscent of the veritable V800, and that trend was clearly on its way out). Yes, M600 was limited by its SoC and Android Wear. No sensors had been supported except for heart rate. But it was a legit training tool, especially for a gym rat. And it was a decent daily companion.

I’m only saying all this because S7 really improves on M600 in almost every aspect. The design and materials are orders of magnitude better as is waterproofing. Multiple buttons and screen lock mean legit operation in gloves or in water. Much bigger, much brighter, higher resolution screen. Better SoC and improved WearOS.

If Suunto were to add a workout calendar, structured workouts, and sensors, S7 would own M600 in every respect. By a wide margin.