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Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race

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    stromdiddily Gold Members @isazi
    last edited by 13 Jan 2020, 20:21

    @isazi fair enough point. We are obviously a little more involved than the average user 🙂

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos region must have something to do with it. I look at tracks for folks in other places and often find much better results despite a seemingly common platform.

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      isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
      last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 20:41

      @Łukasz-Szmigiel so today I must have got one of the best GPS tracks ever in my home area using Galileo. Unfortunately it’s too close to home to share it, but I was very impressed!

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
        last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 23 Jan 2020, 20:43

        Perhaps if posting here we can revive mr SilventVoyager

        I can share that the latest FW for the Sony chip on both S9/S5 performs oustanding.

        Regarding distance, I always get more than Stryd , road or trail. Personal. But about 0.05-0.15 to A3

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          Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 21:09

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos you mean - unpublished firmware?

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
            last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 21:16

            @Łukasz-Szmigiel yes I get (among others) Fieldtest SW to test.

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
              last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 23 Jan 2020, 21:19

              @Łukasz-Szmigiel FYI that is not stable nor something a normal person would benefit from.

              As soon, and as across countries and continents, we can pass several tests we can say that it’s a safe FW to go ahead with.

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                nseslija Bronze Member @isazi
                last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 21:42

                @isazi now that you’ve mentioned, I also had one of the best GPS tracks this last weekend while hiking… with GLONASS although…

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                  surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 21:44

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

                  Perhaps if posting here we can revive mr SilventVoyager

                  I can share that the latest FW for the Sony chip on both S9/S5 performs oustanding.

                  Regarding distance, I always get more than Stryd , road or trail. Personal. But about 0.05-0.15 to A3

                  😳 😍 Can’t wait.
                  Are the speed spikes/wobbles also fixed on higher speeds? It got way better in the current firmware, but there is room for improvement as it still fails sometimes

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                    Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 22:08

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos always good to hear that new firmware is being tested and its results are promising. Awesome!

                    S9PP 2.43.12

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 23 Jan 2020, 22:53

                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

                      Perhaps if posting here we can revive mr SilventVoyager

                      I can share that the latest FW for the Sony chip on both S9/S5 performs oustanding.

                      Regarding distance, I always get more than Stryd , road or trail. Personal. But about 0.05-0.15 to A3

                      I can confirm way @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos as I have been Field-testing the new firmware. We both agree the GPS is much better.

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                        azeanic
                        last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 07:33

                        Can confirm the latest GPS firmware is a lot better than previous iterations. I’m using Stryd for distance, so not sure about actual distance accuracy. But tracks are a lot cleaner and closer to where I’m actually running.

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                          last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 08:47

                          @surfboomerang I have not tested high speeds. Only up to 22km/h that is the fastest j can run.

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                            Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 11:12

                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos let’s hope that this version stays as a release canditate.

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                              surfboomerang @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 12:03

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I haven’t seen the speed wobbles in my running activities. Only on other profiles. I think it has something to do with a different log algorithm in the running profiles.

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                                last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 12:05

                                @surfboomerang we don’t use anything different (algo) between types.

                                It can be though the way you use your arms

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                                  freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 12:09

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                  like “shocks” from waves and fusedspeed becomes confusedspeed?

                                  living sideways

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                                    Shrek3k
                                    last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 12:11

                                    I am ready for an improved GPS (+ ×) software, too.
                                    I a challenging environment (weekdays I am running in Berlin, approx 30% of the route(s) between rather solid and high houses) pure GPS and/or GPS+ Galileo/Glonass are quite often a real disaster and only offering a ‘wobbling’ track. And it does not even help to activate the exercise type and wait for a few minutes after the position has been found(yes, minutes, which currently is not too cozy 😉 )

                                    using a Suunto Vertical & Suunto Wings; mostly running (AKA stomping around) and cycling mostly through the northern german "wilderness"
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                                      Fenr1r @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 12:13

                                      @TELE-HO said in Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race:

                                      confusedspeed

                                      Bravo. Better than any Friday deserves.

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
                                        last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 12:15

                                        @TELE-HO GPS no. Speed distance yes though 😄 Only if GPS is off / lost / bad.

                                        There is also confusedTrack BTW 😄

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                                          nseslija Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                          last edited by 24 Jan 2020, 12:19

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Interesting, I was convinced that there is different GPS algo for different sport modes… open water and cycling, for example…

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