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    Suunto 7: Love and Hate

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    • Luís PintoL Offline
      Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by Luís Pinto

      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos maybe in small devices with internal antennas like smartphones the usefull is marginal. Curious normally every sat have different frequencies, but in your printscreen i see just one Navstar (L1 and L5), two in Gal(E1 and E5) and no one from Glonass and Beidou. BDS-3 sats have this capability and glonass K.

      SR
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      • Luís PintoL Offline
        Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Beidou signal in your printscreen is cool: two sats with > 30.

        SR
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        • Luís PintoL Offline
          Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I read from you that you are getting good results with Nav+BDS solution. Did you confirm?

          SR
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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
            last edited by

            @Luís-Pinto yes sir. The best in line. I ditched gali

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
              last edited by

              @Luís-Pinto gali can be more accurate , eg more close lines on come and go under good conditions. Beidou did never fail me

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              • Luís PintoL Offline
                Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos In all different activities? Hiking/running/bike?

                SR
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                • Luís PintoL Offline
                  Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 7: Love and Hate:

                  gali can be more accurate , eg more close lines on come and go under good conditions. Beidou did never fail me

                  Terrestrial corrections are very important for system integrity. It’s what makes diference in american system WAAS for so long. Europe is getting stability with EGNOS (but need more redundancy), and China with SNAS.

                  SR
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                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Chan Wai Kit
                    last edited by

                    @Chan-Wai-Kit Always on screen will eat into your battery life. If you can use powersave tilt. I did a 4h 40 min run today and finished with 32% battery left.

                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                    • Luís PintoL Offline
                      Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Luís Pinto
                      last edited by

                      Every have relation with time, sats have atomic clocks with nanoseconds of precision. But there are small delays in transmission for earth=time travel (ionospheric perturb…). Ground stations make that corrections. Time is crucial for accuracy, i.e time/space, time cannot be separated from the three dimensions of space. One coin, two faces, same to determine continuum (Einstein stuff).

                      SR
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                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Luís Pinto
                        last edited by

                        @Luís-Pinto yeah.

                        I use my app typically to see what could perform best. In France and Greece beidou has the most sats, and best signal

                        Beidou is big

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                        • Luís PintoL Offline
                          Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos China likes everything in big! It’s a superpower like US.

                          SR
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                          • Luís PintoL Offline
                            Luís Pinto Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by Luís Pinto

                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Well, count with me if you need more tracks to Suunto analyze with Nav+Bds! +1PT 😉

                            SR
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                            • JorgeFDJ Offline
                              JorgeFD @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos app name please?

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                              • isaziI Offline
                                isazi Moderator @JorgeFD
                                last edited by

                                @jorgefd78 That is GPSTest on Google Play.

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                                • Chan Wai KitC Offline
                                  Chan Wai Kit
                                  last edited by

                                  Second test run this evening:
                                  4km jog, follow by 10 min fast/5 min slow x 3 sets, 64% battery left today.
                                  I have used the tilt-screen for jogging and always-on screen for the intervals.
                                  I appreciate the physical buttons which are very solid so I have no problem of doing manual laps by that.
                                  Nevertheless, I have to admit that I missed the interval auto-lap function on my SWHR very much. I think I will stick to my SWHR for intervals before the S7 updates (finger-cross).

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                                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    On iOS use this
                                    https://apps.apple.com/us/app/gnss-view/id924350018

                                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                    • ? Offline
                                      A Former User @Chan Wai Kit
                                      last edited by A Former User

                                      @Chan-Wai-Kit Did you start with 100% battery? Played music? Used map?

                                      I went for a 70 minute run yesterday. Admittedly, I wasn’t using music and wasn’t checking my watch often (I had S9 for that), but I think the drop was barely 10% if at that*. In fact, S7 hasn’t left my wrist since 23:00 EST on Saturday, and it’s still has enough juice to last until 19:00 of today. That’s almost two entire days, with 70 minutes run (GPS+OHR+tiny bit of maps at the beginning)

                                      I think Suunto totally nailed the hardware and battery life on this device 😀

                                      • Oh, snap! Forgot to mention. My phone was with me, so it is entirely possible S7 was getting assisted GPS from the phone, courtesy of Wear OS “fused GPS” 😏 Looks like I’ll have to test again 😓
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                                      • Chan Wai KitC Offline
                                        Chan Wai Kit @Guest
                                        last edited by

                                        @NickK Hi Nick.
                                        Yes, I started with 100% battery. Playing music directly from my phone (bluetooth earbud) so I don’t think that should spend the watch battery a lot .
                                        TBH, 64% left is not super bad for a 70 mins run, but it definitely need more optimization. Especially always-on display is important for interval training (to me), the tilt screen function didn’t work perfectly everytime. Sometimes I have to swing my wrist twice to get the display on.
                                        I just surfed around this forum and some folks mentioned that S7 should be considered as 80% smart watch and 20% fitness watch. I totally agree with this statement.

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                                        • ? Offline
                                          A Former User @Chan Wai Kit
                                          last edited by

                                          @Chan-Wai-Kit Ah, backlight on… Sort of missed that.

                                          This would explain the drop really, even if we factor in the watch was probably using your phone’s GPS and not its own. And I’d imagine if you had run outside, in broad daylight, that backlight would be burning even brighter than otherwise. I think this explains the battery situation quite nicely.

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                                          • fejkerF Offline
                                            fejker Gold Members
                                            last edited by

                                            Looks like you hit the jackpot with your watch @NickK … battery life exceeds Suunto specs. 🙄

                                            SHUT UP LEGS!
                                            -Jens Voigt

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