The Useless Chase of Technology

lohtse

@Brad_Olwin I had read that a few days ago. But it does not fill me with any confidence about what the functionality of ANY of the ambit range will be… This is what SUUNTO need to clarify!!! But then if they plan nothing more then basic functionality they will instantly loose a hell of a lot of users so may be thats why they have said very little at all!!!

At the very least all Ambit and Traverse users should continue to have the SAME level of functionality when the move happens… This can be achieved by just KEEPING Movescount… And moving all other devices to the Suunto App platforms…

Surely the cost of keeping Movescount far outways the huge impact the damage caused to them by not supporting Ambits etc will have to them?? It’s already effecting them now and thats before they actually do anything!!!

@Brad_Olwin It is right. I had not realized that you can change the speed. When setting the actual speed of the exercise, the time is exact.
Thank you very much for the reply.

@Egika Thank you. It’s just as Brad_Olwin explains.

Brad_Olwin

@Nutet said in The Useless Chase of Technology:

@Brad_Olwin It is right. I had not realized that you can change the speed. When setting the actual speed of the exercise, the time is exact.
Thank you very much for the reply.

It is not obvious…I just touch most of the fields trying to figure out if they are active or not, then wipe off the fingerprints:)

@Brad_Olwin said in The Useless Chase of Technology:

It is not obvious…I just touch most of the fields trying to figure out if they are active or not, then wipe off the fingerprints:)

Milos P

OMG - I just bought a Spartan this week for its battery life. Had no idea that the most basic function of exporting a gpx file from the watch to a PC would be unavailable. Can’t even seem to access the watch at all through Windows Explorer. So no choice but to enter the labyrinth of these different apps, as discussed on this forum. Just awful! Would have steered well clear had I been aware.

jw cou

@Milos-P what do you mean by labyrinth? Just sync with SA and download the fit file from there?

Milos P

@jean-william-cousin Thanks - yes I see, now that my new Suuntolink and Movescount accounts are talking to each other, that I can indeed download as FIT. SA is Android or iOS only right, with Movescount disappearing soon?

I naively assumed I could just connect the watch to a PC, download the files like from any USB device and use whichever apps I want. Apparently not.
Labyrinth is having to deal with the nuances of THREE apps (Suuntolink, Movescount and SA) to obtain basic functionality for a single device.

IanRoberts863

Like the author, I bought a Spartan after switching from a clunky but analysis rich Garmin system. I found Movescount very good and the web version ideal for planning and viewing analytical data. What a mistake with the Suunto App. Looks as though it will be a Fenix 6X in a month or so but I won’t return to Suunto after this - treat customers badly and they will vote with their feet,

Egika

@IanRoberts863 wow, you are digging up some old threads here

freeheeler

@Egika
… just to tell a bunch of Suunto fans that Suunto is actually crap and we don’t notice

… but we’re payed trolls

sartoric

@TELE-HO said in The Useless Chase of Technology:

… just to tell a bunch of Suunto fans

trolls, trolls

Bulkan

@IanRoberts863

Hi,

What would you miss in Suunto app from Movescount?

Have you tried Runalyze?

BKtoo

@IanRoberts863 have you tryed QS?

BKtoo

@IanRoberts863 have you tried QS?

BKtoo

@IanRoberts863 QS here it is https://quantified-self.io/services

IanRoberts863

@Bulkan I bought the watch as part of a training system that included (a) a watch that could acquire analytical data while training and (b) software that can be accessed via an App or Web that allowed me to create and plan routes and also analyse training data. Movescount App and Web provided a good analytical interface. What is the point of having a really good analytical acquiring watch without the means to access and view the data? Suunto App is backwards compared to Garmin and why would I want to plan and analyse data on a small phone screen!? I selected returning to Suunto based upon Movescount and that is now a mistake. Live and learn.

IanRoberts863

@Bulkan I don’t just run - what about customers that mountaineer, kayak, ski, climb, cycle and other sports. Do we have to register and pay for third party apps for each sport we do. Absolutely ridiculous. Suunto is having a Kodak moment. This could very easily destroy the company. A loyal customer market will turn if they don’t acknowledge that people buy their watches because of the watch and the ability to analyse data. I prefer Suunto watches to Garmin but I also need to analyse training, across all sports not just running, using vendor provided software.

freeheeler

@BKtoo said in The Useless Chase of Technology:

have you tried QS?

my favourite question I love QS!!

@IanRoberts863
couple of months back I was at a similar point as you are now.
It took me some time to learn that basically the entire industry is heading in that direction and the customers need to learn to live with it and accept it… I would like to have everything out of one hand, one login, one ecosystem, period.
The reality is different but after some time of testing, learning and adapting different to what I wanted but not really bad either.

E.g. with QS you can do so much more than you could do with MC or Strava and especially Garmin Connect

isazi

@IanRoberts863 I don’t just run, and runalyze is one of the best pieces of training software around. And it’s not just free, it’s open source. I use it also with my Garmin watch, it’s not a Suunto thing. No matter which watch you’re going to buy, it’s great. And I tell you after having used TrainingPeaks for years.