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    Milos P @jw cou
    last edited by Milos P 28 Jul 2019, 18:18

    @jean-william-cousin Thanks - yes I see, now that my new Suuntolink and Movescount accounts are talking to each other, that I can indeed download as FIT. SA is Android or iOS only right, with Movescount disappearing soon?

    I naively assumed I could just connect the watch to a PC, download the files like from any USB device and use whichever apps I want. Apparently not.
    Labyrinth is having to deal with the nuances of THREE apps (Suuntolink, Movescount and SA) to obtain basic functionality for a single device.

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      IanRoberts863
      last edited by 9 Feb 2020, 23:03

      Like the author, I bought a Spartan after switching from a clunky but analysis rich Garmin system. I found Movescount very good and the web version ideal for planning and viewing analytical data. What a mistake with the Suunto App. Looks as though it will be a Fenix 6X in a month or so but I won’t return to Suunto after this - treat customers badly and they will vote with their feet,

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        Egika Platinum Member @IanRoberts863
        last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 04:34

        @IanRoberts863 wow, you are digging up some old threads here 😉

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          freeheeler @Egika
          last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 09:26

          @Egika
          … just to tell a bunch of Suunto fans that Suunto is actually crap and we don’t notice 😉

          … but we’re payed trolls ✌

          living sideways

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            sartoric Moderator @freeheeler
            last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 09:31

            @TELE-HO said in The Useless Chase of Technology:

            … just to tell a bunch of Suunto fans

            trolls, trolls
            😁

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              Bulkan Moderator @IanRoberts863
              last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 13:27

              @IanRoberts863

              Hi,

              What would you miss in Suunto app from Movescount?

              Have you tried Runalyze?

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                BKtoo Bronze Member @IanRoberts863
                last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 18:41

                @IanRoberts863 have you tryed QS?

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                  BKtoo Bronze Member @IanRoberts863
                  last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 18:43

                  @IanRoberts863 have you tried QS?

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                    BKtoo Bronze Member @IanRoberts863
                    last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 18:44

                    @IanRoberts863 QS here it is https://quantified-self.io/services

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                      IanRoberts863 @Bulkan
                      last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 19:00

                      @Bulkan I bought the watch as part of a training system that included (a) a watch that could acquire analytical data while training and (b) software that can be accessed via an App or Web that allowed me to create and plan routes and also analyse training data. Movescount App and Web provided a good analytical interface. What is the point of having a really good analytical acquiring watch without the means to access and view the data? Suunto App is backwards compared to Garmin and why would I want to plan and analyse data on a small phone screen!? I selected returning to Suunto based upon Movescount and that is now a mistake. Live and learn.

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                        IanRoberts863 @Bulkan
                        last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 19:03

                        @Bulkan I don’t just run - what about customers that mountaineer, kayak, ski, climb, cycle and other sports. Do we have to register and pay for third party apps for each sport we do. Absolutely ridiculous. Suunto is having a Kodak moment. This could very easily destroy the company. A loyal customer market will turn if they don’t acknowledge that people buy their watches because of the watch and the ability to analyse data. I prefer Suunto watches to Garmin but I also need to analyse training, across all sports not just running, using vendor provided software.

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                          freeheeler @BKtoo
                          last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 19:17

                          @BKtoo said in The Useless Chase of Technology:

                          have you tried QS?

                          my favourite question 👌 I love QS!!

                          @IanRoberts863
                          couple of months back I was at a similar point as you are now.
                          It took me some time to learn that basically the entire industry is heading in that direction and the customers need to learn to live with it and accept it… I would like to have everything out of one hand, one login, one ecosystem, period.
                          The reality is different but after some time of testing, learning and adapting different to what I wanted but not really bad either.

                          E.g. with QS you can do so much more than you could do with MC or Strava and especially Garmin Connect 👍

                          living sideways

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                            isazi Moderator @IanRoberts863
                            last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 19:23

                            @IanRoberts863 I don’t just run, and runalyze is one of the best pieces of training software around. And it’s not just free, it’s open source. I use it also with my Garmin watch, it’s not a Suunto thing. No matter which watch you’re going to buy, it’s great. And I tell you after having used TrainingPeaks for years.

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                              nseslija Bronze Member @IanRoberts863
                              last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 19:24

                              @IanRoberts863 I use Runalyze for all sports I practice, and it is great. I can tell the same for QS. Both are much better then Movescount…

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                                Łukasz Szmigiel @isazi
                                last edited by 10 Feb 2020, 20:29

                                Runalyze is pretty amazing. The interface is somewhat dated but I can live with it - especially considering how much this service provides. There’s some data I haven’t seen anywhere else and I’d recommend runalyze for everyone who wants to well… analyze 😉

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                                  Bulkan Moderator @IanRoberts863
                                  last edited by Bulkan 2 Oct 2020, 20:38 10 Feb 2020, 20:38

                                  @IanRoberts863 I understand.

                                  As are telling you below Runalyze is free and not only for running.

                                  If you want reports in the web try Quantified-self free as well.

                                  In suunto app you have very good reports in calendar and you can sort by sport, day, week, mont, year…

                                  The switch from Movescount to suunto app is very argued here, you are not alone, and some others had said basically the same as you are saying.

                                  If you think that you are going to be better with another brand maybe is a good option give it a try. But try suunto app, for routing I find it very useful. I have installed in my iPad and iPhone and I prefer to create routes in Suunto app than other place. I miss POI but is something where suunto is working we had here a sneak peak of it.

                                  We can’t help you if you don’t tell us what do you miss or need, for that the key is a good feedback.

                                  I don’t only run, and here I think we have a lot of kind of sportsman.

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