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@wolfie55555 The device promises up to 12 hours with GPS and OHR, so you’re fine for some ultras. Not just a marathon. If you prefer to listen to music while running, you are probably looking at 5-8 hours depending on what app is used and if music is DRM-protected. Which should still be enough for a marathon.
Stryd is currently only possible with third party sports apps like Sporty Go. Perhaps, Stryd will release a port of their fantastic Apple Watch app. Suunto’s own app sadly doesn’t support external sensors, and that would include Stryd.
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About battery duration. My last test:
65’ outdoor gps running listening a podcast (using wear casts app). The watch was not connected to phone since I left at home. When I started activity wath had 35% battery. I cannot stop the activity because the watch enter in power mode
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it’s not about Suunto 7 being worth or not,
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I’ve had enough money to waste on S9B… and I can’t remember when I last charged itliving sideways
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@wolfie55555 said in Suunto 7 - Is it worth buying?:
Is it worth buying in your opinion?
Yes. For me a watch for both, sports and daily usage. I sold my S9B and decided to buy a new S7.
After a week of daily usage I am glad that I did so.
There is no risk. You can return the S7 if it shouldn’t be the watch which fits your personal needs.
But be aware of the fact that you will stay with the S7!
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@TELE-HO said in Suunto 7 - Is it worth buying?:
I can’t remember when I last charged it
Be careful if you can’t remember facts and events!
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I’m a happy S7 owner too, for all the reasons already explained here…
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Thank you to everyone that responded. Considering that this is a first gen watch, I expected that there would be more issues with the watch. I’m gonna buy it. I think that Suunto will have a real winner with the S7 in the smartwatch/sportwatch segment. This won’t appeal to the hardcore fitness enthusiasts or Apple watch aficionados (lots of apps) but there is a large segment of ‘us’ that needs fitness and wants some Wear OS apps.
Thanks again to everyone for responding! I appreciated your assistance.
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@wolfie55555 My hope Suunto sees the light and delivers a few key features that would let us use Suunto 7 for some or most workouts not currently tracking well. The list is fairly short for me. I’d settle for external heart rate, footpod, and intervals at this point
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Hi all, first post here.
I actually came across this forum whilst also looking for a replacement for my Garmin Vivoactive 3.
I was originally looking at the casio WSD-F21HR but then came across this suunto 7.
I’m hoping someone could offer a little advice as to what would better suit my needs based on my usage outlined below:-
Mon-Fri work usage until around 5pm would purely be as a smartwatch where id like to see notifications,weather etc.
The activities I will be doing is mainly mountain biking,static bike and occasional free weights.
I really like the idea of mapping as we also go on family walks etc so this would also come in handy.
I’m not overly bothered about fitness tracking (steps,sleep etc) but would be nice to have available.
Anybody used the Casio Pro trek? Any comparisons? Google doesn’t come back with much to be honest.
I really want to pick this watch up and was pretty much ready to pull the trigger before watching the DC rainmaker review.
So I guess my question in a nut shell is “am I getting the best bang for my buck with the suunto 7”.
Thanks for your time
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@gazaman77 Check @the5krunner blog as he reviewed several Casio watches me thinks. Without going into too much details (see Suunto 7 lengthy thread), your use case of walks, mountain bike, and spin bike should be pretty agreeable, but…
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You won’t be able to connect your bike sensors like speed or power if you have them, because no external sensors are supported at the moment by Suunto own app. Third party apps do offer support
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For weights, the wrist heart rate won’t be accurate. Some people managed to wear the watch further away from the wrist and got acceptable results, and there are, again, third party apps that support external heart rate
Other than this, Suunto 7 is the best Wear OS smartwatch with legit sports tracking. It’s probably the best Wear OS smartwatch in general spec-wise too, given materials, screen, offline maps, water proofing, and on. Is it the best Wear OS sports watch? I’d say Polar M600 sporty/activity tracking side has an edge in many respects for now but its GPS isn’t nearly as good and outside of sports it’s a clunky, dim, slow, four year old parole bracelet of a watch…
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I actually bought a WSD-f20 last week as it was on sale here in Germany (160€). After ~1 week of usage, I am actually happily surprised. The battery life is very good for a Wear OS watch: nearly 2 days with Wifi and Bluetooth ON and the GPS trying to get the position every 6 minutes. Always ON eats the battery though, as some Watchfaces. Speaking of Watchfaces, I only use the Casio ones, they are very nice (but very Casio, so still miss Suunto here).
The offline maps seem to work fine and the GPS as well. The altimeter is surprisingly bad compared to Suunto or Garmin, it probably needs to be calibrated often. The watch does not differentiate at all before changes of pressure and change of altitude (it’s basically the exact same curve
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Very cool stuff is that the tools can use the LCD screen (something I found out today). With the WSD-30 you can also have the sensors info in the timepiece mode (so with Wear OS off).
The screen is very good but not super easy to see in the sun. The 2nd LCD screen the opposite, super nice in the sun, very hard in darkness
In term of Activity, it is a Protrek, not a Suunto: it will not show much info, also not record much info. What you get at the end is a summary and a KML path.
So a very cool watch, and probably one of the best Wear OS aside the Suunto 7
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my review is first. do not buy pro-trek f-21
I compared track with suunto 9
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Hi all,
I am still considering to purchase S7, but I have few main concerns.- battery life, it seems to be too short
- activity tracking…seems that Google Fit and integration to that is not working well and I just hate Fit.
-Sleep tarcking is missing. I do not want to use third party app and I would like to have all fitness activities such as sleep, steps, sport activity etc. collected to same app, preferably to SA.
Pros
- possibility use different apps
- maps
- good loking watch
I am still considering to buy S9. There are good discount on S9 at the moment, but it might be in the end of lifetime as well what comes to SW updates etc.
Any rumors about S10 or any other watch after S7.
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@Toni-Kotiranta It wont be the end of features / updates for the S9/S5 if that bothers you.
Just helping out here.
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@zvonejan I don’t know if you kept the watch, but most reviews recommend to not use “Moment Setter”. It is very buggy and seems to slow down/crash the watch as well.
What you show in the video is very typical of Wear Os, not only Casio, and I also encounter that. But when in an Activity, it’s reasonably fast. Not sure if the Suunto is better on that, as it seems to be mostly Google fault.
I also did not buy the watch for a very high price, and for developing on it. For the current price of the F21 or F30 I would not buy them, even to develop on.
Ah, and the GPS trace was good for me, once in an activity (otherwise it is either every 7 minutes or every minute). Not as good as Suunto or Garmin (once indoor went very crazy), but good.
But it seems that you have a new activity app (in the video so), and the one on the D20 works better than that (actually had no issue with it).
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@Alain-Becam said in Suunto 7 - Is it worth buying?:
@zvonejan I don’t know if you kept the watch, but most reviews recommend to not use “Moment Setter”. It is very buggy and seems to slow down/crash the watch as well.
I have a Suunto 7, maybe I want new functionality, specially with suunto app integration, but I can say mine is not buggy, not the watch per se neither the Suunto wear app. Rock solid.
Tu comunidad Suunto en Telegram: https://t.me/suuntocommunity (spanish)
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@Bulkan Moment Setter is an optional companion app to configure it. You can actually do all that on the watch, and it’s ergonomic enough. Quite weird to have such an app not behaving well, especially when basically useless, but so I can live without it.
Aside from that the Casio does not really have a companion app like the Suunto. It is not an activity tracker out of the box.
And I don’t have any issue with the watch myself. Only part randomly annoying is part of Wear OS. It could be because the watch has “only” 512kb, when the Suunto 7 has 1Mb. From what I read 512kb is not enough for smooth operation of Wear OS.
At the same price (like the WSD-30 and WSD-21), the Suunto 7 seems to be a (much) better offer. At the price I paid, the Casio is very good compared to other Wear Os watches at similar prices. -
No. I did not keep the watch. ‘Home’ application from any company is a mirror of their vision and stability. I tried also locus on protrek, accuracy was perfect, but that app uses gps from phone. Tried also viewranger, and it was quite good. The protrek 21 has a good look, but materials feels like cheap plastik, display is soft and bends a lot. I like a complete ecosistem from a watch (setting for watch, creating a route, uploading moves to web) and then I will decide to which third party i will transfer moves (preferring to none)
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@zvonejan Agree about the application, and as it’s totally redundant with the watch app, it makes no sense for them to release something like that. The GPS is simply not consistent. I went out together with an Oregon 300 (old for sure but with a good GPS), and the watch did actually perform sometime better than the Garmin, and the map definitively more useful on the watch (without routing, that the watch don’t support). But at other times it is not very good. Yesterday I could see on with side of the road I walked…
I think they don’t care much with that in their software, they want something that works quickly without eating too much battery. Like their barometer (altitude is often wrong by 30-40 meters), they are more indicative tools. But when I looked for an ABC watch 10 years ago, it was already the case, which is why I went to Suunto with a Core. I don’t think Casio are good for tracking, they are more to help you out, it’s a different approach (and one that combines less happily with Wear OS I would think). They could (as sometimes it is very good or with other apps), but they don’t
The material is resin with mineral glass, so if you bent your screen you probably broke it too :). And resin is normal Casio material when they want something light and strong. You might have had the impression it is not robust, but it definitively is (MIL-STD-810 compliant, like the Traverse). But you might indeed expect less plastic with this price (the original ~400€). They probably did it to keep the weight reasonable, but still. Actually the only difference between the WSD-F20A and the other WSD-F20 is the plastic armband attach, and the A is like 100€ cheaper, so maybe the metal is really super expensive for Casio
