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    francescobaldi @sartoric
    last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:09

    @sartoric I’m trying to follow the situation, and the transition forum too
    Honestly I didn’t find any news in the forum and in the website, so your post sounds like
    “didn’t you read that it will not be supported?”

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      isazi Moderator @francescobaldi
      last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:12

      @francescobaldi the only official information is the one from Suunto. So far we had Ambit support in Suuntolink, so that you can sync routes and configuration from MC to your watch, and activities to SA. Hopefully SA support for Ambits will improve further in the future. But I have the feeling that covid slowed things down.

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        Prenj
        last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:23

        Sorry for being harsh, but to call it a slowdown, there should be some movement. There was none since 2018. So basicly, development for A3P was totally dead for 19 months already.

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          sartoric Moderator @Prenj
          last edited by sartoric 29 Jun 2020, 15:24

          @Prenj
          well … suuntolink for ambits doesn’t look as “nothing”, I mean is part of the process

          could something more be done ? sure

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            isazi Moderator @Prenj
            last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:24

            @Prenj I meant in general. We used to have lots of beta versions of the app until covid.

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              Prenj @sartoric
              last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:27

              @sartoric said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

              @Prenj
              well … suuntolink for ambits doesn’t look as “nothing”

              could something more be done ? sure

              LOL. OK, let’s pretend we really got something we didn’t already have 😁

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                Prenj @isazi
                last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:29

                @isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                @Prenj I meant in general. We used to have lots of beta versions of the app until covid.

                I get that and that’s good. I’m just frustrated because of really unfair treatment of A3P by suunto.

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                  Mff73 @Prenj
                  last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:36

                  @Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                  I get that and that’s good. I’m just frustrated because of really unfair treatment of A3P by suunto.

                  I think we begin to understand 😉

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                    francescobaldi @Prenj
                    last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:39

                    @Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                    @isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                    @Prenj I meant in general. We used to have lots of beta versions of the app until covid.

                    I get that and that’s good. I’m just frustrated because of really unfair treatment of A3P by suunto.

                    Exactly.
                    I think that to implement the basic control functions that was in the movescount app in the SA, before discontinuing it sould have been the minimum done.
                    there are too much holes in this process… I’m sorry

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                      tomhaegler
                      last edited by 8 Jul 2020, 11:40

                      @Mff73 said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                      ust frustrated because of real

                      After reading all posts, I’m still confused: do you think we’ll ever see route planning/uploading and sport mode editing in the Suunto App for Ambit 3 Series?! Can’t be that of a problem??!?!

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                        Mff73 @tomhaegler
                        last edited by 8 Jul 2020, 11:50

                        @tomhaegler said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                        @Mff73 said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                        ust frustrated because of real

                        You quoted me, but not with the whole content. 🙂 this part of “confusion” is not from me.

                        Here is the complete thread 🙂

                        @Mff73 said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                        @Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                        I get that and that’s good. I’m just frustrated because of really unfair treatment of A3P by suunto.

                        I think we begin to understand 😉

                        And to answer you question : no idea about suunto plans about A3 and SA.

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                          Prenj
                          last edited by 8 Jul 2020, 12:01

                          @tomhaegler To be honest, I don’t believe there will be new functionalities in Suunto app for A3P ever. We’d be fools to believe otherwise after year and a half of zero lines of code added for A3P in Suunto app. I’m not happy about it, but that’s what it is. Well competition still thinks that there is a demand for watches that offer what A3P once offered (hint: Garmin Instinct Solar).

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                            isazi Moderator @Prenj
                            last edited by 8 Jul 2020, 12:02

                            @Prenj so you have access to SA source code? Comments and opinions are one thing, saying that you know what is in the code is a lie.

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                              margusl @isazi
                              last edited by 8 Jul 2020, 12:19

                              @isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                              @Prenj so you have access to SA source code? Comments and opinions are one thing, saying that you know what is in the code is a lie.

                              While I’d use a different wording (like: “no ambit-related user-visible changes since end of 2018”), I don’t believe @Prenj is too far from truth here. Besides, SA APK is pretty much like an open book with few scribbled pages here and there, meaning that there’s no issues listing what’s in there, though its tricky to point out what’s certainly not there.

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                                Prenj @isazi
                                last edited by Prenj 7 Aug 2020, 12:21 8 Jul 2020, 12:21

                                @isazi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                                @Prenj so you have access to SA source code? Comments and opinions are one thing, saying that you know what is in the code is a lie.

                                Yeah I might be wrong, there really might be a bunch of stuff done for A3P under the hood. Sorry for assuming that after 19 months of nothing visible for A3P there. No ability to adjust watch settings, adding routes, poi-s, syncing with movescount… But you are 100% right. I stand corrected. There really might be something there in the code we are not aware of. It’s OK to believe that.

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                                  tomhaegler @Prenj
                                  last edited by tomhaegler 7 Oct 2020, 09:56 10 Jul 2020, 09:53

                                  @Prenj …then my next question would be: would it be possible to develop an own app that could add routes and change sport modes? e.g. I use an aftermarket, user developed firmware on my canon 550d which adds a ton of features 🙂

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                                    last edited by 10 Jul 2020, 10:04

                                    Afaik atm there won’t be any support for Bluetooth sync of settings / routes with the SUUNTO app for A3 etc.

                                    There will be a new website and that will sync only with cable and will be enabled only for A3 etc.

                                    I am writting this in order to not raise hopes

                                    If you read the announcements that is also said there. A3 etc will sync only via cable.

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                                      Prenj @tomhaegler
                                      last edited by 10 Jul 2020, 10:08

                                      @tomhaegler said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                                      @Prenj …then my next question would be: would it be possible to develop an own app that could add routes and change sport modes? e.g. I use an aftermarket, user developed firmware on my canon 550d which adds a ton of features 🙂

                                      Unfortunately Suunto is reluctant to release the necessary protocols to developers outside their company. Guys at OpenAmbit succeeded in developing opensource alternative for moveslink, but they hit the wall for changing settings without movescount web. So I don’t expect there will be anything new.

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                                        Prenj @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 10 Jul 2020, 10:10

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                                        Afaik atm there won’t be any support for Bluetooth sync of settings / routes with the SUUNTO app for A3 etc.

                                        There will be a new website and that will sync only with cable and will be enabled only for A3 etc.

                                        I am writting this in order to not raise hopes

                                        If you read the announcements that is also said there. A3 etc will sync only via cable.

                                        Thanks for clarifying this at last Dimitrios. Bad news, but at least clear enough. 👍

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                                          tomhaegler @Prenj
                                          last edited by 10 Jul 2020, 10:15

                                          @Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                                          Afaik atm there won’t be any support for Bluetooth sync of settings / routes with the SUUNTO app for A3 etc.

                                          There will be a new website and that will sync only with cable and will be enabled only for A3 etc.

                                          I am writting this in order to not raise hopes

                                          If you read the announcements that is also said there. A3 etc will sync only via cable.

                                          Thanks for clarifying this at last Dimitrios. Bad news, but at least clear enough. 👍

                                          at least we know. Settings by cable is disappointing but not the end. At least I can change settings - I don’t do it often. But still…so this means: the movescount website will be shut down - when exactly? because route planning / gpx import will disappear as well then…

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