Something new is coming

Egika

@moe67er said in Something new is coming:

@Egika the 2nd screenshot has a big headline in the watch called „weather“… and what prediction can you do with barometric values? Yes, weather changes (additional to measure your m above sea level). But with FusedAlti there is an ongoing correction of altimeter during an activity. So if this is a screen/widget during normal use and not an activity, it is IMHO for weather predictions based on barometric changes.
And do you really need this or do you prefer your local weather forecasts as mentioned?

I can repeat myself. The screen shared is a live activity display. In the meantime somebody found that it most likely is a Suunto+ screen.
This thread is about what’s coming to the current watches. I like it and I’d love to have a barometric trend and temperature reading when out in the wild.
Local weather forecast is just not in the scope of news for S9 or S5 - and it is available in S7 already.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@moe67er said in Something new is coming:

Improving altimeter is for general product improvement and needs not to be advertised that way.

I dont understand that line well

@Egika and as I said I just say what I see and that is the headline weather on that watchface. And weather prediction only based on barometric pressure on the watch is hardly reliable and for planning a long run I would always recommend to use local forecasts. It is a nice gimmick and shows you the current barometric pressure, not less and not more. If pressure drops by a huge value within a certain time, maybe a storm is incoming…but storm warning is an already implemented feature as I remember right.

Temperature measuring with the watch and without a pod away from your body is also measuring just anything, but not a reliable value because it is a mix of environmental and body temperature. The value has no significance.

Efejota

@moe67er I see it somehow differently. If spending several (two/three days, maybe) outdoors hiking, the evolution of barometric pressure is relevant. Specially after the night. Of course you can check it online, but I rather restrict the use of smartphone even if having coverage at all. About temperature, I agree with you. But in my experience with the Ambit, I ended up figuring out the real temperature in 5/7º lower. Not so precise, but anyway…

bbx100

Is there anything new for spartans? At least new watch face?

Stefan Kersting

@bbx100 we Spartan owners are not demanding. We are already happy with a new watch face

halajos

@Stefan-Kersting said in Something new is coming:

@bbx100 we Spartan owners are not demanding. We are already happy with a new watch face

and a bugfix, maybe?

tomahawk5000

Should I understand that that update will be release this month?

Łukasz Szmigiel · S9PP 2.37.48

@tomahawk5000 yup.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@moe67er said in Something new is coming:

@Egika and as I said I just say what I see and that is the headline weather on that watchface. And weather prediction only based on barometric pressure on the watch is hardly reliable and for planning a long run I would always recommend to use local forecasts. It is a nice gimmick and shows you the current barometric pressure, not less and not more. If pressure drops by a huge value within a certain time, maybe a storm is incoming…but storm warning is an already implemented feature as I remember right.

Temperature measuring with the watch and without a pod away from your body is also measuring just anything, but not a reliable value because it is a mix of environmental and body temperature. The value has no significance.

Hey man. There is truth in what you say. I understand well

But look at it a bit different of you like.

You can measure the temperature, if you like and that requires you to take off your watch and wait a few minutes. It’s not bad Todo so. You could even not get obsessed with wearing the watch all the time, and put it hanging etc to get a good reading.

You can as well check a lake temperature if you like before your dive.

Regarding pressure. Well here I’ll argue.

Having lived in the mountains with no good forecast I could and always used the trends.

Sure there are areas that have good hyperlocal weather such for example Netherlands. It would be silly there to base on pressure.

If something doesn’t work for you, or is of no use doesn’t mean it ain’t also for others that would like to have it.

You made a critical point before about stryd metrics. Let me inverse it a bit.

I have used stryd, I used to be an ambassador for runteq and one of the first of milestone pod. Arguably many users like you could use the stryd metrics, I have used them a LOT on their own app when needed , but I lately don’t care at all and find them silly. However I never said don’t make this feature. I want it for others to be happy, nor would I go to any brand and try to raise my opinion of not being useful.

And that is all about it. Something new comes, there was no promise. Let people who like it be happy. Why devide? Perhaps next time something you love comes.

Let’s wait for the update, and then the next one if santa remembers us.

Brad_Olwin

@moe67er I disagree with your statement about weather. In the Colorado Rockies we often have thunderstorms that are local and not easily predictable, certainly not precisely predictable. The barometer readings can be extremely helpful to predict those storms and have already worked for me. A second issue is when you are out for multiple days. There is no cellular signal in the majority of our mountains. Having a weather predictor can be invaluable.

Mff73

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
I admire your patience while arguing to multi critisizers.

Egika

@moe67er it says weather - not weather forecast.
You might want to check the definition of weather.
Pressure and temp are part of it.
It’s the metrics, the watch can measure. It can’t so with precipitation…
If this data is not useful for you, that is fine (while I still wonder why you need to tell this to the world…)

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Egika
@moe67er

Honestly here , this was not an easy name to pick.

Fenr1r

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

Maybe you should’ve gone with “Climate”. Can’t see that causing any problems.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Fenr1r I was not involved at least

Egika

@Fenr1r climate is the statistical weather data over many years. Does not apply here.
But who cares about the title. The information page is important, and if this is an S+ function, it should be recorded with the other data?!

Fenr1r

@Egika And a sentence delivered without an emoji may still be a joke.

Egika

@Fenr1r

@Brad_Olwin and those warnings are already implmented as I stated above in storm warnings, isn‘t it? This feature is nice. It raises an alarm and you can react. But on a trailrun or skimountaineering day I never check barometric values while I am out. I do it before… also for 3 day trips. And when I know there could be a bad weather it is ok.
And as said: storm warnings for e.g. fast incoming summer thunder storms are great and this feature should be implemented by all watches having a barometer. but I do not need the values of the barometric pressure itself.