Something new is coming

Łukasz Szmigiel · S9PP 2.40.38

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@moe67er said in Something new is coming:

@Egika and as I said I just say what I see and that is the headline weather on that watchface. And weather prediction only based on barometric pressure on the watch is hardly reliable and for planning a long run I would always recommend to use local forecasts. It is a nice gimmick and shows you the current barometric pressure, not less and not more. If pressure drops by a huge value within a certain time, maybe a storm is incoming…but storm warning is an already implemented feature as I remember right.

Temperature measuring with the watch and without a pod away from your body is also measuring just anything, but not a reliable value because it is a mix of environmental and body temperature. The value has no significance.

Hey man. There is truth in what you say. I understand well

But look at it a bit different of you like.

You can measure the temperature, if you like and that requires you to take off your watch and wait a few minutes. It’s not bad Todo so. You could even not get obsessed with wearing the watch all the time, and put it hanging etc to get a good reading.

You can as well check a lake temperature if you like before your dive.

Regarding pressure. Well here I’ll argue.

Having lived in the mountains with no good forecast I could and always used the trends.

Sure there are areas that have good hyperlocal weather such for example Netherlands. It would be silly there to base on pressure.

If something doesn’t work for you, or is of no use doesn’t mean it ain’t also for others that would like to have it.

You made a critical point before about stryd metrics. Let me inverse it a bit.

I have used stryd, I used to be an ambassador for runteq and one of the first of milestone pod. Arguably many users like you could use the stryd metrics, I have used them a LOT on their own app when needed , but I lately don’t care at all and find them silly. However I never said don’t make this feature. I want it for others to be happy, nor would I go to any brand and try to raise my opinion of not being useful.

And that is all about it. Something new comes, there was no promise. Let people who like it be happy. Why devide? Perhaps next time something you love comes.

Let’s wait for the update, and then the next one if santa remembers us.

Brad_Olwin

@moe67er I disagree with your statement about weather. In the Colorado Rockies we often have thunderstorms that are local and not easily predictable, certainly not precisely predictable. The barometer readings can be extremely helpful to predict those storms and have already worked for me. A second issue is when you are out for multiple days. There is no cellular signal in the majority of our mountains. Having a weather predictor can be invaluable.

Mff73

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
I admire your patience while arguing to multi critisizers.

Egika

@moe67er it says weather - not weather forecast.
You might want to check the definition of weather.
Pressure and temp are part of it.
It’s the metrics, the watch can measure. It can’t so with precipitation…
If this data is not useful for you, that is fine (while I still wonder why you need to tell this to the world…)

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Egika
@moe67er

Honestly here , this was not an easy name to pick.

Fenr1r

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

Maybe you should’ve gone with “Climate”. Can’t see that causing any problems.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Fenr1r I was not involved at least

Egika

@Fenr1r climate is the statistical weather data over many years. Does not apply here.
But who cares about the title. The information page is important, and if this is an S+ function, it should be recorded with the other data?!

Fenr1r

@Egika And a sentence delivered without an emoji may still be a joke.

Egika

@Fenr1r

A Former User

@Brad_Olwin and those warnings are already implmented as I stated above in storm warnings, isn‘t it? This feature is nice. It raises an alarm and you can react. But on a trailrun or skimountaineering day I never check barometric values while I am out. I do it before… also for 3 day trips. And when I know there could be a bad weather it is ok.
And as said: storm warnings for e.g. fast incoming summer thunder storms are great and this feature should be implemented by all watches having a barometer. but I do not need the values of the barometric pressure itself.

A Former User

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Haha…what other use cases can we create? Temperature of the red vine after the tour?

Do you guys really run out into the mountains and after 2-3 hours you think: Oh wait, what weather do we have today, maybe I should check my baro? But you all plan and create your track in the app and upload it to the watch. Doesn‘t make sense to me

That runteq company… I have the belt of them and waited long time for an update they promised…and of the app. Did they release already what they wanted to do? Never checked after waiting so long…

Regarding Stryd:
Why not just recording everything it delivers that you can use it with a short workflow and not syncing forth and back over several platforms? Suunto, and this is my opinion too, wants to be the one with an easy to use user experience!?

What would be used more often barometric pressure readings or structured intervals? I don‘t know… Suunto will have done the homeworks with questionaires and forum post upvotes…

I just say my opinion and do not try to convince someone. I am just a still disappointed „user“ and wondering about people here partying features former Suunto watches, other brands watches have but do not improve the use cases of the S9B (for me)

A Former User

@Egika well, seems to be a wording issue. Maybe Barometer would have been the better headline if they did not intend to use it for weather prediction based on barometric values. But if not, I really have no idea what else you can do with it ‍️

A Former User

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I think so. Especially having people interpreting it in many different ways (and I never thought that WEATHER together with barometric values can be so versatile interpretable)

isazi

@moe67er the barometer during activities has been requested many times in this forum. But apparently what’s not useful to you can’t be useful to others, my Lord

A Former User

@isazi the way people partying that feature should also allow others to ask why exactly this function and for what. Nothing else, little servant… do not want to convince you not to use it.

When I used my S9B in 2018/19, other features were on top of the wishlist here in the forum. Maybe people are getting frugly

Likarnik

I hope not all new features will be regarding weather. Baro is a must for me, but storm alarm never worked, not on previous Ambits and not on S9B. Elevation is always perfect, but storm alarm goes nuts when I finish my run in mountains or after big descends (more than -1000m in one go). Not always of course. But never when storm arrives

Theo Lakerveld

I’m a bit surprised that “something new” seems to be related to firmware updates and some new screens. Even though this is only speculative, shouldn’t Suunto come up with a new top of the line device at this time, incorporating such new firmware tidbits? I mean Polar, Garmin and Coros have issued new devices (Grit, Phenix 6, Pace 2, etc.), while suunto hasn’t for a while.
I understand that Suunto has released the 7 as a smartwatch with some sports functionality. Though I’m starting to feel left behind as a loyal Suunto user (with an ancient Ambit 2S and Spartan Ultra). We now get all excited when some limited new functionality seems to be comming. I’m on the other hand looking forward to a S9 successor that could be based on the S7 and has some real new inovative features. I realy expected such a device now.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@Theo-Lakerveld remember, that Suunto is EU based and except a few watches most are manufactured and designed in FI.

We also have a pandemic. Different factory for COROS + POLAR + GARMIN … in ZH and different to have a factory with all the EU laws.