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    Jamie BG Bronze Member @zweizudrei
    last edited by 3 Sept 2020, 09:56

    @zweizudrei: I used to sail a lot and have done a couple of worlds in dinghies and raced a fair amount in keelboats too (from helming, to tatics to crewing - been there done it all and got the T-shirt).

    Fully understand the count down and agree with you; what I am confused about is the count up once the race has started? Are you more referring to tracking the duration from the starting gun so you can see total time to complete race so that you can work out your handicap impact when racing multi-class (never been a major issue for me as most of the racing I have done is single class racing and or pursuit racing where your start includes your handicap)? if so I would think that you tracking from the pre-signal would be best and then just subtract the 5mins off your total time.

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      zweizudrei @surfboomerang
      last edited by 3 Sept 2020, 10:33

      @surfboomerang
      i’m afraid i don’t understand how to set this? The start is probably similar to that of sailing - and you have one hand free to operate the clock immediately after the start?

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        zweizudrei @Jamie BG
        last edited by 3 Sept 2020, 10:40

        @Jamie-BG
        thanks! Yes, I refer to the duration from start to finish because I am sailing both single class regattas and Yardstick where I need to calculate the handicap. Yes, tracking from pre-signal and then subtract the 5 min, would work. Still it would be so much nicer to count down to the start and then count up just like the old Suunto once had it …

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          surfboomerang @zweizudrei
          last edited by 3 Sept 2020, 10:41

          @zweizudrei I start the lap 5 min before the start. The datafield shows 0 min and counts up to 5 min. It doesn’t give any signals, but by looking at the watch during start, I can try to cross the startline at exactly 5 min. After start I don’t set the watch anymore until the finish.

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            Jamie BG Bronze Member @zweizudrei
            last edited by 3 Sept 2020, 13:19

            @zweizudrei - you need to get stronger hands - if helming you need to learn to be able to hold tiller/tiller extension and mainsheet in one hand…
            if crewing you definitely should have a free hand.

            It is never going to be perfect, especially if you are having to tack or make adjustments for other boats as your cross the line, but in a lot of cases you should be fine.
            But this is part of the reason why I used to use my method (subtract 5 mins).

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              zweizudrei @Jamie BG
              last edited by zweizudrei 9 Mar 2020, 20:19 3 Sept 2020, 20:09

              @Jamie-BG
              it is tiller and both sheets, so stronger hands would indeed be good - so today I only used the normal timer again (which is good) and trusted the regatta team for taking the total time correctly. And maybe I’m looking for a good excuse for not being first today …

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                zweizudrei @surfboomerang
                last edited by zweizudrei 9 Mar 2020, 20:19 3 Sept 2020, 20:16

                @surfboomerang
                thanks surfboomerang, but to start the laps duration field don’t I have to start the race first? I arranged the laps duration field on page 3 of my sailing training. But in order to get to page 3, must I not start the race first? Sorry for being confused.

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                  surfboomerang @zweizudrei
                  last edited by 3 Sept 2020, 20:52

                  @zweizudrei
                  Not in my case… let me give you an example how I use the watch during windsurfing races with a 5 min start

                  Iets say we sail a race of 5 heats. All with a 5 min start.
                  The first start (5 min signal) will be at exactly 1:00 PM.

                  My watch has some fields I use for windsurfing but one field is the Laps Duration field. Lets say that I have that field on my 3rd page.
                  What I will do in this situation is that I start a windsurf activity when I enter the water and I will sail to the start area. So my actiivty starts before 1:00 PM.

                  I press the middle button of my S9 Baro until I an on page 3 with the Laps Duration field
                  On the 5 min start signal, I press the manual lap button which will reset the Laps Duration field to 0:00:00 and it will start counting towards 0:05:00. So I know I have to cross the start line on exactly 0:05:00. After that the watch keeps counting seconds during the race.

                  Lets say it takes me 10 minutes to complete the course and cross the finish line Once I finish the Laps Duration field will show 0:15:00 and is still counting. On this point I have two options:

                  1: Press the manual laps button again to create an intermediate lap just for analyzing purposes
                  2: Leave the counter running

                  I press the manual laps button again on the 5 min start signal of the next heat which will reset the Laps Duration field to 0:00:00 and the process described above repeats all over until all 5 heats are finished.
                  After I leave the water, I stop the windsurf activity and that will finish the whole recording.

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                    zweizudrei @surfboomerang
                    last edited by 4 Sept 2020, 08:55

                    thank you very much @surfboomerang for the detailed explanation!
                    Instead of laps, I had set up a page with intervals: set 5 intervals each 1 min and 0 recovery time. That was my fault.
                    So your lap 1 is the way to the start and the regatta field and lap 2 is the 5 minutes before the starting gun plus the entire race to the finish? At the finish line you manually stop lap 2 to create an intermediate lap and subtract 5 min, which is your race time. At least that’s how it works.
                    Warm greetings from sailing.

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                      surfboomerang @zweizudrei
                      last edited by surfboomerang 9 Apr 2020, 09:52 4 Sept 2020, 09:51

                      @zweizudrei said in Sailing – Regatta Timer:

                      So your lap 1 is the way to the start and the regatta field and lap 2 is the 5 minutes before the starting gun plus the entire race to the finish? At the finish line you manually stop lap 2 to create an intermediate lap and subtract 5 min, which is your race time. At least that’s how it works

                      Correct.
                      If you are interested in race times, then you start lap 3 right after the finish. Your race time is then lap 2 (- 5 min).
                      If you’re not interested in the race time, you can leave lap 2 running until the 5 min start of the next race and then start lap 3.

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                        Artem Lavrynenko @zweizudrei
                        last edited by 19 Nov 2020, 14:24

                        @zweizudrei In addition to normal countdown it should have an option to sync to desirable minute by pressing up and down button. As sometime the race comity signal are off.

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                          isazi Moderator
                          last edited by 11 Oct 2022, 14:02

                          A sail racing timer has been added to the S+ store.

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                            surfboomerang @isazi
                            last edited by 11 Oct 2022, 14:04

                            @isazi Already available or after fw update? I can’t find it.

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                              isazi Moderator @surfboomerang
                              last edited by 11 Oct 2022, 14:04

                              @surfboomerang I can see one of them in the S+ store, under watersports, but I would not believe it works before the firmware update.

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                                surfboomerang @isazi
                                last edited by 11 Oct 2022, 14:05

                                @isazi Then it’s probably disabled for the S9P. I only see “Direct Path” under watersport

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                                  isazi Moderator @surfboomerang
                                  last edited by 11 Oct 2022, 14:07

                                  @surfboomerang still testing it then, I am sure it will be available with the update.

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                                    surfboomerang @isazi
                                    last edited by 11 Oct 2022, 14:08

                                    @isazi ✊
                                    Good job Suunto!

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                                      Oliviero Conte @surfboomerang
                                      last edited by 22 Oct 2022, 10:18

                                      @surfboomerang A good job would it be to have a countdown directly in the sailing activity. I find it very stupid from suunto that 15 years ago had this feature in it’s watches and now we have to do workaround to just have a countdown for regattas.

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                                        DMytro @Oliviero Conte
                                        last edited by 22 Oct 2022, 10:32

                                        @Oliviero-Conte maybe this being an s+ feature is just a stepping stone before its implemented directly into an activity? Better than to have nothing anyways.

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                                          Egika Platinum Member @Oliviero Conte
                                          last edited by 23 Oct 2022, 02:29

                                          @Oliviero-Conte not every sailing activity is a regatta…

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