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    • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
      Anssi Auvinen
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      I noticed that my watch is not giving right altimeter data anymore. For example I downloaded bike route from strava which was recorded with barometric device and it had about ~1400m of elevation gain. When I finished the same route, i had only 1088m of elevation gain.

      Today I the went to bike ride with my S9 and Garmin handheld device and the result differed quite much: S9 535m and Garmin 615m. After I rode one uphill, I stopped to check the elevation and it took about 3 minutes form my S9 to get to the same elevation as garmin, so barometer is working but really slowly.

      Also checked some routes that I had ride multiple times. In june 49km had 650m of elevation gain and same route in september 522m.

      I have updated the watch couple weeks ago for latest version and I have also left the watch for water and rinsed it on running water to clean the barometer holes.

      Is there something else what I can do or do I have to just send it for the repair?
      It’s just over 2 years old, so no guarantee left 😞

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        • sartoricS Offline
          sartoric Moderator @Anssi Auvinen
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          @Anssi-Auvinen
          Did you try a soft reset?

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          • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
            Anssi Auvinen @sartoric
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            @sartoric

            No, I have not reseted, but I think the update did a reset in september and the problem has been longer.

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            • sartoricS Offline
              sartoric Moderator
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              Well … you can always contact suunto support to check if it’s faulty

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              • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Anssi Auvinen
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                @Anssi-Auvinen How do you know the Garmin is correct and the S9 (baro?) faulty? Are you sure you have the baro version? On the new watch face does the face show air pressure or steps?

                Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                  Anssi Auvinen @Brad_Olwin
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                  @Brad_Olwin I have run the faulty data through elevation correction service and that shows the same result than garmin handheld device. And yes, im sure that i have baro version. Also S9 baro did show right data in the summer.

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                  • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Anssi Auvinen
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                    @Anssi-Auvinen A soft reset is to hold the upper right button for 12 seconds and the watch will reboot. No reason to do a hard reset now. If you use quantified self, could you post links so we can see altitude profiles? QS will allow import of Garmin fit files and will import from Suunto app.

                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                    • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                      Anssi Auvinen @Brad_Olwin
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                      @Brad_Olwin s9-g.jpeg

                      This shows quite much the reason, when I waited ~3 mins at the top of the hill, S9 reached to the same elevation.

                      Checked the garmin data, but I think the export from the device is not from every second so the exported gpx is not accurate enough.

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                      • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                        Anssi Auvinen
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                        Here’s the qs link: https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/DzCcIqqv3jthDHJHh00L

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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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                          @Anssi-Auvinen then it didn’t manage to calibrate it self in time. Or calibrated incorrectly. But 1h to get a good precision is too much. Did you calibrate at start? How was the GPS conditions ?

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                          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @Anssi Auvinen
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                            @Anssi-Auvinen You can merge the two files for the same activity, that might help for looking at the altitude. Merge the fit files for S9B and Garmin in QS, there is a button for that.

                            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                            • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                              Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Gps conditions were fine and I have not ever calibrated it at the start.

                              Today again short ride Suunto 122+m, Garmin 185+m, Strava with elevation correction 196m+.

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                              • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                                Anssi Auvinen @Brad_Olwin
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                                @Brad_Olwin You can clearly see even with that S9 data what is wrong. I repeated the same hill 4 times and it does not show the same elevation every time down or up. Right elevation came if I waited some minutes without moving.

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                                • Mff73M Offline
                                  Mff73
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                                  have you tried cleaning your baro sensor ?
                                  too much delay in correct altitude/pressure reading may come from sensor being “blocked” by some dust or else.

                                  You can eventually try also to downgrade firmware to previous one and see if your guess that it is FW related is true.

                                  Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
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                                  Wife : S9PP
                                  SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                  Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                  • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                                    Anssi Auvinen @Mff73
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                                    @Mff73 Yes, I had the watch one night in water and after that i rinsed it with running water.

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                                    • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                                      Anssi Auvinen
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                                      example.png

                                      Here you can see that is just working too slowly.

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                                      • Mff73M Offline
                                        Mff73 @Anssi Auvinen
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                                        @Anssi-Auvinen
                                        Are you with Android SuuntoApp ?
                                        If yes, you could also try to import the SA raw data file into QS and see GPS altitude registered by the watch. We may be able to see something different. Raw data files can be found in the phone (see this link https://forum.suunto.com/post/33052)

                                        But if you sensor is clean, and “just” behave slowly, and if you think it is like that only since latest FW, i personnaly would have downgraded FW to be sure of this (if you are able to reproduce the phenomenon).

                                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                        Suunto Vertical all black
                                        Wife : S9PP
                                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                        Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                                        • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                                          Anssi Auvinen @Mff73
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                                          @Mff73 Im iOS user and I think this problem started before the latest update (I have only checked data from last couple weeks), but I can try to downgrade next week.

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                                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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                                            @Anssi-Auvinen can I have a QS link ?

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