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    • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
      Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Next ride will be a race, so there maybe i can get strava statistics from other riders.

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        Cropped june and september rides with matching routes:

        June (860+m): https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/vV5bafVvaJ9F8ujgKN3n

        September (680+m): https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/vV5bafVvaJ9F8ujgKN3n

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        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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          @Anssi-Auvinen keep in mind that Strava does it’s own thing. Also garmins etc.

          What I do is parse the altitude from many DEMS to avoid particular faults from services

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          • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
            Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Strava shows at least same elevation gain than suunto app if you dont do elevation correction.

            Here’s those 2 rides merged:
            https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/dtWKtQzjB9aahYuSdJTO

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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              @Anssi-Auvinen I see.

              Take a look Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 11.22.37.png

              Both have identical high and low but not gain and loss. Could that be wind ? Something on how the watch is placed ?

              How do you place the watch ?

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              • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                Anssi Auvinen
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                difference.png
                Quite far from identical.

                But i have been thinking also the placement. In ride one the watch was in right hand and in ride two was attached to bike handlebar with suunto accessory.

                Tested this also on tuesday ride, where I made 2 uphills with handlebar attachment and 2 uphills on a left hand. qs link

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                  halajos Bronze Member @Anssi Auvinen
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                  @Anssi-Auvinen if you wear the watch on your write wrist, the baro sensor is facing toward the headwind. I can imagine this is causing such issue.

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                  • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                    Anssi Auvinen @halajos
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                    @halajos There was no error when watch was in the wrist, it’s now when it is in the handlebar. And I write with my left hand, so I do not wear it in the write wrist 😛

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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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                      @Anssi-Auvinen said in S9 barometer problems:

                      difference.png
                      Quite far from identical.

                      But i have been thinking also the placement. In ride one the watch was in right hand and in ride two was attached to bike handlebar with suunto accessory.

                      Tested this also on tuesday ride, where I made 2 uphills with handlebar attachment and 2 uphills on a left hand. qs link

                      For sure this is a difference no doubt. I meant thought that the high is ok. (and the low).

                      In regards to wind / hand placement

                      2 potential probs.

                      1. As noted headwind (even if it doesnt exist)
                      2. Left hand can block the sensor if you push / lean on the bike.

                      To wipe out completely outside / wind factors imo the best apporach is either the bar or just in a pocket (if you want to be really picky) .

                      In regards to this:

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPyEtZH3QaU

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                      • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                        Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos The “old” data with riding in the right hand just seems more accurate so I don’t think the placement is the problem.

                        Barometer just is just not sensetive enough anymore and is not reacting quick changes of altitude. And theres lots of those when gravel riding here in countryside.

                        But is the cause that watch is broken or still barometer is too dirty even after cleaning? Or is the problem in the updated software?

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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                          @Anssi-Auvinen said in S9 barometer problems:

                          Or is the problem in the updated software?

                          The only thing I know is that in the last update we literaly din’t change anything for Alti or GPS

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                            Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos And if I remember the earlier update was in earlier in the spring.

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                            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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                              @Anssi-Auvinen correct.

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                                Efejota Bronze Member
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos : It might be useful to check this activity, that showed a similar behaviour on Monday: https://quantified-self.io/user/b8N0uPCCIxbEKbOPC3wYZMdRP8A2/event/5d0113bf1a5b3af0bc8e360b6c8ddcab1ecdf1647d68d6609bb77180d3c117c1

                                No wind, clean sensor, latest firmware.

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                                  @Efejota I looked at this but there is nothing to compare to, what is the problem?

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Brad_Olwin
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                                    @Brad_Olwin different altitude start / end by same place 100m.

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                                      Efejota Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Yes, but not only that. You can see that there were several loops and a progressive descent on the lowest point before the small ascent.

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                                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Efejota
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                                        @Efejota yes yes. That to me looks quite bad. Is it like this all the time ?

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                                          Efejota Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos To be honest, sometimes I noticed differences, but never paid much attention. The other day it was quite evident and remembered it when I read the post. I can check other activities to see when happened.

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                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Efejota
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                                            @Efejota keep a decent look for future ones. 😄

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