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    Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:21

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Strava shows at least same elevation gain than suunto app if you dont do elevation correction.

    Here’s those 2 rides merged:
    https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/dtWKtQzjB9aahYuSdJTO

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
      last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:23

      @Anssi-Auvinen I see.

      Take a look Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 11.22.37.png

      Both have identical high and low but not gain and loss. Could that be wind ? Something on how the watch is placed ?

      How do you place the watch ?

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        Anssi Auvinen
        last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 09:32

        difference.png
        Quite far from identical.

        But i have been thinking also the placement. In ride one the watch was in right hand and in ride two was attached to bike handlebar with suunto accessory.

        Tested this also on tuesday ride, where I made 2 uphills with handlebar attachment and 2 uphills on a left hand. qs link

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          halajos Bronze Member @Anssi Auvinen
          last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 10:00

          @Anssi-Auvinen if you wear the watch on your write wrist, the baro sensor is facing toward the headwind. I can imagine this is causing such issue.

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            Anssi Auvinen @halajos
            last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 10:03

            @halajos There was no error when watch was in the wrist, it’s now when it is in the handlebar. And I write with my left hand, so I do not wear it in the write wrist 😛

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
              last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 11:03

              @Anssi-Auvinen said in S9 barometer problems:

              difference.png
              Quite far from identical.

              But i have been thinking also the placement. In ride one the watch was in right hand and in ride two was attached to bike handlebar with suunto accessory.

              Tested this also on tuesday ride, where I made 2 uphills with handlebar attachment and 2 uphills on a left hand. qs link

              For sure this is a difference no doubt. I meant thought that the high is ok. (and the low).

              In regards to wind / hand placement

              2 potential probs.

              1. As noted headwind (even if it doesnt exist)
              2. Left hand can block the sensor if you push / lean on the bike.

              To wipe out completely outside / wind factors imo the best apporach is either the bar or just in a pocket (if you want to be really picky) .

              In regards to this:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPyEtZH3QaU

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                Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 11:24

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos The “old” data with riding in the right hand just seems more accurate so I don’t think the placement is the problem.

                Barometer just is just not sensetive enough anymore and is not reacting quick changes of altitude. And theres lots of those when gravel riding here in countryside.

                But is the cause that watch is broken or still barometer is too dirty even after cleaning? Or is the problem in the updated software?

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
                  last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 11:25

                  @Anssi-Auvinen said in S9 barometer problems:

                  Or is the problem in the updated software?

                  The only thing I know is that in the last update we literaly din’t change anything for Alti or GPS

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                    Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 11:26

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos And if I remember the earlier update was in earlier in the spring.

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                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
                      last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 11:27

                      @Anssi-Auvinen correct.

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                        Efejota Bronze Member
                        last edited by 24 Sept 2020, 19:45

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos : It might be useful to check this activity, that showed a similar behaviour on Monday: https://quantified-self.io/user/b8N0uPCCIxbEKbOPC3wYZMdRP8A2/event/5d0113bf1a5b3af0bc8e360b6c8ddcab1ecdf1647d68d6609bb77180d3c117c1

                        No wind, clean sensor, latest firmware.

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Efejota
                          last edited by 25 Sept 2020, 13:03

                          @Efejota I looked at this but there is nothing to compare to, what is the problem?

                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

                          D 1 Reply Last reply 25 Sept 2020, 14:54 Reply Quote 0
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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Brad_Olwin
                            last edited by 25 Sept 2020, 14:54

                            @Brad_Olwin different altitude start / end by same place 100m.

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                            E 1 Reply Last reply 25 Sept 2020, 15:29 Reply Quote 2
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                              Efejota Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 25 Sept 2020, 15:29

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Yes, but not only that. You can see that there were several loops and a progressive descent on the lowest point before the small ascent.

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Efejota
                                last edited by 25 Sept 2020, 15:50

                                @Efejota yes yes. That to me looks quite bad. Is it like this all the time ?

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                                  Efejota Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by Efejota 25 Sept 2020, 15:52

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos To be honest, sometimes I noticed differences, but never paid much attention. The other day it was quite evident and remembered it when I read the post. I can check other activities to see when happened.

                                  D 1 Reply Last reply 25 Sept 2020, 17:21 Reply Quote 1
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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Efejota
                                    last edited by 25 Sept 2020, 17:21

                                    @Efejota keep a decent look for future ones. 😄

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                                    B 1 Reply Last reply 25 Sept 2020, 18:20 Reply Quote 0
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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by 25 Sept 2020, 18:20

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9 barometer problems:

                                      @Efejota keep a decent look for future ones.

                                      Maybe FusedAlti did not activate for this. I do not see a calibration change when FusedAlti typically activates.

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by 25 Sept 2020, 18:41

                                        @Brad_Olwin it can well be.

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                                          Efejota Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 25 Sept 2020, 18:55

                                          @Brad_Olwin When should it happen? I mean, I assumed that it worked automatically, but, if it were the case, when does it kick in? It might be possible that the activity that I shared was started without my usual warm up.

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