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    Export .Fit file from Suunto App to PC for use in Firstbeat Athlete

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    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Online
      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Albert Willem Knop
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      @Albert-Willem-Knop wait FA canno’t parse the FIT file from SA ?

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        Albert Willem Knop
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        Thank for the quick reaction. Yes the .fit file produced by MC worked fine, but the fit file produced by SA gave the error message. b096656b-6d29-4831-8d43-ad2d4da330a7-afbeelding.png When comparing the two .fit files the have roughly the same size (132 vs 134 kB) but the look different in word pad. I can send you the files when needed.

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        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Online
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          @Albert-Willem-Knop I have written in JS a FIT file algo and the FIT file from SA has the correct RR structure. However, I understand that this doens’t matter atm. I am saying it not to somewhat defend the SA but rather give a chance to FA to reply on this issue.

          Perhaps the FA is using some old FIT file parser? Worth giving a shout to them as well 🙂

          What do you think ?

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            Albert Willem Knop
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            This could be a way to solve this. However, the .fit files “produced” by MC today works fine. The two files I compared are from the same training session I did this morning. A small problem could be FA is an older program and I have strong doubts Firstbeat is supporting it still. I bought it for about €100 with a discount arranged by Suunto (shortly after I bought my T6). The application the run now (Firstbeat Sports Individual) costs €299 PER YEAR, which is insane for a amateur athlete. As said I can send you the two .fit files from the same training session.

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Online
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Albert Willem Knop
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              @Albert-Willem-Knop sure I can take a look and perhaps help here. Just dropbox and pm me.

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                Albert Willem Knop
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                Sounds good. I have uploaded them to my dropbox but how can I arrange that you can see/read them?

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                  Albert Willem Knop
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                  Maybe we should stop for today and resume next week. Thanks for your help so far and have a great weekend.

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                    Albert Willem Knop
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                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Can we pick this up again? How can I arrange that you can see those 2 .fit files originating from the same session but made by Movescount and Suunto App respectively?

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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Online
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                      Will be investigating this but here is why this is happening now for 3 years already to “most” garmins

                      https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/cycling/f/edge-520-520-plus/134410/invalid-new-r-r-format-with-fw-12-2

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                        mcmahonsport @Albert Willem Knop
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                        @Albert-Willem-Knop I have the same situation, using Movescount for FA. I tried downloading a FIT file with your programme Quantified Self, and it was successful, however, the R-R error above occurred. I use a Suunto Ambit3 Peak.

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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Online
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                          Yes that is correct. Suunto app QS use the new FIT protocol.

                          I wonder: Does FB ahtlete accept some csv format for RR ? Any other format?

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                            Albert Willem Knop @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I am using a Suunto 9.

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Albert Willem Knop
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                              @Albert-Willem-Knop understood.

                              But does FB athelete accept any other format for your data ?

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                                Albert Willem Knop @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos When FA is loading a file, it looks for files with the following extensions: sdf, hrm, rrm, bms, dat, csv, ste, txt, sbe, fit. I doubt whether all these types can provide all the information FA needs to calculate EPOC and PTE. These two values are the most important to me, as they are used to set up my training program for the coming days.

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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Albert Willem Knop
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                                  @Albert-Willem-Knop isn’t those the RR data?

                                  Can you try this file ? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QKs-iSQBpM4pUV1BV1psahF_ygZlomRB1jzMCFY0MfY/edit?usp=sharing

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                                    Albert Willem Knop @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos The problem is solved. I ran the .FIT file produced by the Suunto App through Fit File Repair Tool (https://www.fitfilerepairtool.info/) . When I used this tool a few months ago it failed to produce a file that could be used in Firstbeat Athlete. I ran it again today (after re-installing Fit File Repare Tool and MS Access) and now I got a good result. I am not sure whether the problem was in the software I installed, in a mistake from me or in a flaw in the .FIT file produced by the Suunto App in October. Anyway, it is a bit more work to get the information from the Suunto App to Firstbeat Athlete, but it works now. Thanks for all you help.

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