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    djibarian Bronze Member
    last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 11:21

    @margusl Yes I am on iOS but I wouldn’t mind connect the watch to an Android device if that would do the trick. But do you need also root the device?

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @djibarian
      last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 11:21

      @djibarian 2 years ago the feature was created . @isazi is here about 1 year like you.

      The feature is recently on beta and actually now it’s rolling out on production of the Android app

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        sartoric Moderator
        last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 11:23

        just to show images … as if doesn’t exists on the internet, it doesn’t exists 😁

        https://forum.suunto.com/topic/5543/android-4-33-generic-comments/2

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          djibarian Bronze Member
          last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 11:24

          Ok let’s calm down. If the feature is there I will be happy to give it a try (assuming I’m wrong thinking that it was created 2 years ago, went to alpha 1 year ago, beta this year and in prod at the end of 2021). Only saying that this transition is taking too long and is not ideally done.

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            sartoric Moderator @djibarian
            last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 11:26

            @djibarian
            Yes

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @djibarian
              last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 11:29

              @djibarian are you on Android ?

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                djibarian Bronze Member
                last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 11:39

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I use Apple stuff daily but I have Android phones and tablets and Windows laptops too.

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @djibarian
                  last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 11:40

                  @djibarian

                  join us at the beta:

                  https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.stt.android.suunto

                  Then on one of your android devices pair the watch. The app will pull the pois from the watch save them to the could and show them on the map.

                  You can also create etc.

                  Then just wait for iOS (if that is your main OS) to get that feature. The iOS app when enabled will show also the POIS synced via the Android app etc.

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                    djibarian Bronze Member
                    last edited by 17 Dec 2020, 11:42

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thank you very much, that’s good news! Will join later.

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                      djibarian Bronze Member
                      last edited by 20 Dec 2020, 19:42

                      Tried the beta and managed to sync the watch with the Android phone and see the POIs in the app. However, and correct me if I’m wrong, now the POIs are both in the watch and the app, but still no way to extract them from there. So what’s the point of this new version?

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                        Mff73 @djibarian
                        last edited by 21 Dec 2020, 05:18

                        @djibarian said in Export POIs from Suunto 9:

                        now the POIs are both in the watch and the app, but still no way to extract them from there. So what’s the point of this new version?

                        correct, and this version is the first with POI sync management between SA and watch.
                        Before that, only Movescount was able to do that. : now we can avoid using MC for POI.
                        But, if your goal is to share these POI from outside SA to other people or 3rd party app, then it is not yet implemented.

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                          last edited by 21 Dec 2020, 07:57

                          I think movescount was able to export the pois only via the export all data, that is available once a week?

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                            djibarian Bronze Member
                            last edited by 21 Dec 2020, 21:12

                            Exporting data with MS was a pain, as you had to request it and wait for an email to arrive to your inbox which would have a link to all your data, even if you were interested only in the last POI, or the last track.

                            It seems that this is a philosophical matter, in the sense that Suunto doesn’t care about theirs users being able to access THEIR (user’s) data in THEIR (user’s) watches. Otherwise this functionality would be #1 in the list very long time ago (now you can save a track as a FIT, which is not very convenient if you want a GPX, but at least you can export it somewhat; it shouldn’t be so difficult to add a button to export your POIs as GPX too)… Which makes me think… because GPX is a kind of universal GPS data interchange format, why isn’t that option still not available to export a track?

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                              sartoric Moderator @djibarian
                              last edited by sartoric 21 Dec 2020, 22:54

                              @djibarian said in Export POIs from Suunto 9:

                              because GPX is a kind of universal GPS data interchange format, why isn’t that option still not available to export a track?

                              In fact you can.

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                                djibarian Bronze Member
                                last edited by 21 Dec 2020, 22:59

                                Where is it??

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                                  sartoric Moderator @djibarian
                                  last edited by 21 Dec 2020, 23:02

                                  @djibarian
                                  If you share the route you get the gpx.
                                  If you’re talking about activities, you should have a “save route” then you can export it

                                  Not sure about iOS menu

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                                    Fenr1r @sartoric
                                    last edited by 21 Dec 2020, 23:08

                                    @sartoric But isn’t that a link, not a file? So you need a data connection to ST servers (wherever) to get that info from your phone (probably in your hand). And, as a route-formatted file, the GPX from ST lacks the timestamps of the track you recorded, right?

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                                      djibarian Bronze Member
                                      last edited by 22 Dec 2020, 08:21

                                      @sartoric Really difficult to find and not very user-friendly feature.

                                      @Fenr1r Right and right, and if you look inside the GPX, coordinates are rounded to 5 decimals and heights to 0 decimals (1 meter).

                                      The point is, why not add an option to Save as GPX just below the Save as FIT option in the track? And why not add the POIs (waypoints) which have been created in the same time interval as the track? That simple. Instead of that, the app keeps gaining super complex features which I would like to know who is using.

                                      First things first please. With FIT you have all your heart rate etc; with GPX you have the waypoints. With both, you have all your data to do whatever you want to do with it. There are tons of apps and services to edit and analyze GPX and FIT data, so why not give the user the choice while they (slowly) implement new features?

                                      I bought a Fenix 6X and have it here in the box. I’m curious to know if Garmin has this same greedy approach with the data.

                                      And one last thing, is there any plan for a desktop or web app, or even a proper tablet app?

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @djibarian
                                        last edited by 22 Dec 2020, 09:04

                                        @djibarian said in Export POIs from Suunto 9:

                                        I bought a Fenix 6X and have it here in the box. I’m curious to know if Garmin has this same greedy approach with the data.

                                        What are you trying to get out of this with all the respect?

                                        We export to FIT file and GPX for routes. You can convert a FIT file online easily.

                                        Since the POI feature is just going live, we can collect feedback for the specific needs of sharing etc.

                                        That simple. Instead of that, the app keeps gaining super complex features which I would like to know who is using.

                                        What are those complicated features that noone is using?

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                                          sartoric Moderator @djibarian
                                          last edited by 22 Dec 2020, 09:05

                                          @djibarian said in Export POIs from Suunto 9:

                                          And one last thing, is there any plan for a desktop or web app, or even a proper tablet app?

                                          You really should try the search function of this forum 😁

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