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      djibarian Bronze Member
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      Ok let’s calm down. If the feature is there I will be happy to give it a try (assuming I’m wrong thinking that it was created 2 years ago, went to alpha 1 year ago, beta this year and in prod at the end of 2021). Only saying that this transition is taking too long and is not ideally done.

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        @djibarian
        Yes

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          @djibarian are you on Android ?

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            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I use Apple stuff daily but I have Android phones and tablets and Windows laptops too.

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @djibarian
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              @djibarian

              join us at the beta:

              https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.stt.android.suunto

              Then on one of your android devices pair the watch. The app will pull the pois from the watch save them to the could and show them on the map.

              You can also create etc.

              Then just wait for iOS (if that is your main OS) to get that feature. The iOS app when enabled will show also the POIS synced via the Android app etc.

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                djibarian Bronze Member
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thank you very much, that’s good news! Will join later.

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                  Tried the beta and managed to sync the watch with the Android phone and see the POIs in the app. However, and correct me if I’m wrong, now the POIs are both in the watch and the app, but still no way to extract them from there. So what’s the point of this new version?

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                    @djibarian said in Export POIs from Suunto 9:

                    now the POIs are both in the watch and the app, but still no way to extract them from there. So what’s the point of this new version?

                    correct, and this version is the first with POI sync management between SA and watch.
                    Before that, only Movescount was able to do that. : now we can avoid using MC for POI.
                    But, if your goal is to share these POI from outside SA to other people or 3rd party app, then it is not yet implemented.

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                      I think movescount was able to export the pois only via the export all data, that is available once a week?

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                        Exporting data with MS was a pain, as you had to request it and wait for an email to arrive to your inbox which would have a link to all your data, even if you were interested only in the last POI, or the last track.

                        It seems that this is a philosophical matter, in the sense that Suunto doesn’t care about theirs users being able to access THEIR (user’s) data in THEIR (user’s) watches. Otherwise this functionality would be #1 in the list very long time ago (now you can save a track as a FIT, which is not very convenient if you want a GPX, but at least you can export it somewhat; it shouldn’t be so difficult to add a button to export your POIs as GPX too)… Which makes me think… because GPX is a kind of universal GPS data interchange format, why isn’t that option still not available to export a track?

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                          @djibarian said in Export POIs from Suunto 9:

                          because GPX is a kind of universal GPS data interchange format, why isn’t that option still not available to export a track?

                          In fact you can.

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                            Where is it??

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                              sartoric Moderator @djibarian
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                              @djibarian
                              If you share the route you get the gpx.
                              If you’re talking about activities, you should have a “save route” then you can export it

                              Not sure about iOS menu

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                                @sartoric But isn’t that a link, not a file? So you need a data connection to ST servers (wherever) to get that info from your phone (probably in your hand). And, as a route-formatted file, the GPX from ST lacks the timestamps of the track you recorded, right?

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                                  @sartoric Really difficult to find and not very user-friendly feature.

                                  @Fenr1r Right and right, and if you look inside the GPX, coordinates are rounded to 5 decimals and heights to 0 decimals (1 meter).

                                  The point is, why not add an option to Save as GPX just below the Save as FIT option in the track? And why not add the POIs (waypoints) which have been created in the same time interval as the track? That simple. Instead of that, the app keeps gaining super complex features which I would like to know who is using.

                                  First things first please. With FIT you have all your heart rate etc; with GPX you have the waypoints. With both, you have all your data to do whatever you want to do with it. There are tons of apps and services to edit and analyze GPX and FIT data, so why not give the user the choice while they (slowly) implement new features?

                                  I bought a Fenix 6X and have it here in the box. I’m curious to know if Garmin has this same greedy approach with the data.

                                  And one last thing, is there any plan for a desktop or web app, or even a proper tablet app?

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                                    @djibarian said in Export POIs from Suunto 9:

                                    I bought a Fenix 6X and have it here in the box. I’m curious to know if Garmin has this same greedy approach with the data.

                                    What are you trying to get out of this with all the respect?

                                    We export to FIT file and GPX for routes. You can convert a FIT file online easily.

                                    Since the POI feature is just going live, we can collect feedback for the specific needs of sharing etc.

                                    That simple. Instead of that, the app keeps gaining super complex features which I would like to know who is using.

                                    What are those complicated features that noone is using?

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                                      @djibarian said in Export POIs from Suunto 9:

                                      And one last thing, is there any plan for a desktop or web app, or even a proper tablet app?

                                      You really should try the search function of this forum 😁

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                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Don’t get me wrong. If I’m spending time writing here is because I made a choice and chose Suunto. And I like the watch and the ecosystem in general. But also I see very big flaws that I wanted to share and get fixed if possible.

                                        FIT doesn’t include waypoints, and converting to route and sharing creates an unusable GPX which lacks time and have the values clamped. I see recording tracks and waypoints and being able to access them as a really basic functionality of a GPS watch, and also I think that my data is mine and I should be able to access it.

                                        If Suunto doesn’t understand that, I’m sorry but I will find another company that fits my basic needs. I remember the time when I had an old gpsmap62 brick and the only thing I had to do was to connect it to the computer and instantly see the tracks and the waypoints I recorded.

                                        Now is a complete frustration to go out and try to do the same. It’s not only that it’s difficult, it’s impossible.

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                                          @djibarian I can for sure make suunto understand but first of all let us two understand.

                                          FIT doesn’t include waypoints, and converting to route and sharing creates an unusable GPX which lacks time and have the values clamped. I see recording tracks and waypoints and being able to access them as a really basic functionality of a GPS watch, and also I think that my data is mine and I should be able to access it.

                                          Kind correct the above.

                                          However, when we export the activity as a route / or a route we do include waypoints in a GPX file. What are you missing from what? I dont get it.

                                          Help me to help you.

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                                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I have the feeling @djibarian means POIs recorded with the watch, and not route waypoints.

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