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So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

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    freeheeler @margusl
    last edited by freeheeler 21 Feb 2021, 09:55

    @margusl
    😱 I did not see the ascent 🤔

    Screenshot_20210221-105656.png

    living sideways

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      margusl @freeheeler
      last edited by margusl 21 Feb 2021, 10:45

      @freeheeler said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

      @margusl
      😱 I did not see the ascent 🤔

      It’s your phone, it’s way too small for GC 😛

      Seriously, you need something that goes beyond 1024 in width before that table header is even shown, like landscaped IPad Pro. And Advanced is just for filtering, not sorting.

      No idea why they decided to provide only certain metrics for certain sport types, but this is what you’ll get for BC ski:
      57b35f3d-fc68-4a69-9d94-3429cc1fa833-image.png

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        Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member
        last edited by Ramón Castañer Botella 24 Feb 2021, 00:24

        All the days, I can see that Movescount site is still active for many people because there are a lot of new Moves.

        I can see that many users upload Moves directily with:
        Suunto 9 Baro
        Suunto Spartan Ultra
        Suunto Quest

        And also from 3rd parties like:
        FitnessSyncer
        iQniter
        MXActivityMover

        Could anybody explain why Movescount is still working?
        And if I have a Suunto Ambit 3 Sport, could I use any of these 3rd parties to upload Moves to Movescount site?
        And how??

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          Bulkan Moderator @Ramón Castañer Botella
          last edited by Bulkan 24 Feb 2021, 08:41

          @ramón-castañer-botella Hi Ramón, I think here are the answers.

          https://www.suunto.com/Support/faq-articles/transition/how-do-i-use-the-suunto-services-with-ambit3/

          Tu comunidad Suunto en Telegram: https://t.me/suuntocommunity (spanish)

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            Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @Bulkan
            last edited by 24 Feb 2021, 19:11

            @bulkan
            Ok, thanks.
            I think you are joking or you have not understood what I’m asking for.
            The link you have gave me is for upload the data to new Suunto app and not to old Movescount site. Of course I know this procedure.
            But I was asking for the old Movescount site.

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              pavel.samokha @Ramón Castañer Botella
              last edited by 24 Feb 2021, 19:18

              @ramón-castañer-botella I wonder how do you check that there are “many users upload Moves directly”? Using what page?

              Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @pavel.samokha
                last edited by Ramón Castañer Botella 24 Feb 2021, 19:29

                @pavel-samokha

                That’s very easy:
                You enter in Movescount site, you look in Community and then in Groups. You look for the biggest groups for example:
                https://www.movescount.com/groups/group2318-Suunto_Ambit_family_users

                Then you look for the 10 LATEST MOVES and you open some of them. At the end of some Move it appears how it has been upload.
                As you will see, you can find Moves uploaded with:
                Suunto 9 Baro
                Suunto Spartan Ultra
                Suunto Quest

                And also from 3rd parties like:
                FitnessSyncer
                iQniter
                MXActivityMover

                The question is WHY???

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                  freeheeler @Ramón Castañer Botella
                  last edited by 24 Feb 2021, 19:32

                  @ramón-castañer-botella
                  3rd parties is maybe because of forgotten sync services?

                  living sideways

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                    Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @freeheeler
                    last edited by Ramón Castañer Botella 24 Feb 2021, 19:34

                    @freeheeler

                    Could you give one example of how to do it???

                    In any case, it is ridiculous that Movescount site is still working with some Suunto models or with some 3rd parties.

                    If Movescount is closed then it is closed for everyone. I don’t understand this politics.

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                      freeheeler @Ramón Castañer Botella
                      last edited by 24 Feb 2021, 19:40

                      @ramón-castañer-botella
                      nobody said that movescount will be killed. I remember that it will still be active with a reduced service

                      living sideways

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                        Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @freeheeler
                        last edited by Ramón Castañer Botella 24 Feb 2021, 19:43

                        @freeheeler
                        Fine.
                        Then could you explain how does this reduced service work to use it with my Suunto Ambit3??

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                          pavel.samokha @Ramón Castañer Botella
                          last edited by pavel.samokha 24 Feb 2021, 19:44

                          @ramón-castañer-botella OK, that’s interesting, thanks

                          I can partially answer the question:

                          • Moveslink1 api is working and hence you can see Quest, M4, M5; nothing changed regarding these devices
                          • Third-party APIs hasn’t been disabled yet probably
                          • As for other devices I found only one workout made with Spartan Sport WHR. If you can post more links with recent Ambit/Spartan/S watches, I’ll be grateful. I’m really curious how do they “leak” into.

                          Anyway if you try to find the way to upload workouts to Movescount - there really no point in it. Even if there is a way to do it then it’s only matter of time when it will be “fixed”.

                          Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                            Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @pavel.samokha
                            last edited by Ramón Castañer Botella 24 Feb 2021, 19:50

                            @pavel-samokha

                            Of course many APIs hasn’t been disabled yet and not probably. That’s for sure with the names I’ve written before.

                            I don’t like to post here individual Moves of someone. If you want you can search for them.

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                              freeheeler @Ramón Castañer Botella
                              last edited by 24 Feb 2021, 19:53

                              @ramón-castañer-botella
                              no I can’t, sorry. I’m just a fan and user, not part of the team.
                              But I would like to know in a short summary what your actual problem is that we could help you with?

                              living sideways

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                                Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                last edited by Ramón Castañer Botella 24 Feb 2021, 19:58

                                @freeheeler

                                The problem is that I found Movescount site was very useful and much more than the new Suunto app that only works with the small screen of a mobile phone.
                                For using a big screen in a PC now I’m using quantified-self.io site that is very beautiful in design. However for me Movescount was more functional.
                                Of course, all of this without mention that since Movescount site has been “closed” I can’t view as a graphic the big quantity apps I have made for the Ambit. I can only use them in my watch but I have lost the temporal registry of the app data.

                                As you can imagine I’m veeeery angry

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                                  chrish Bronze Member @Ramón Castañer Botella
                                  last edited by 24 Feb 2021, 20:07

                                  @ramón-castañer-botella

                                  I’m no authority on this, but in summary…

                                  Movescount will drop the data analysis/moves part of what you have historically used it for, that goes to the Suunto App or like you said, third party.

                                  Movescount will continue in some form to manage your watch settings, POIs, Routes, etc on older watches. That’s assuming they get that fixed in short order. There have been a few things broken there in that regard over the last year+, but hopefully they get it sorted out sooner rather than later.

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                                    freeheeler @Ramón Castañer Botella
                                    last edited by 24 Feb 2021, 20:09

                                    @ramón-castañer-botella
                                    I can not only imagine, it is clearly noticable from your posts 🙄
                                    it is how it is, Ambit was way ahead of competitor watches and maybe not the most wanted watch for everyone but it was very capable and customizable as you also mention with the apps and how you made use of it. I did that myself, too.
                                    The thing is that companies need strategies to be able keeping up with the competitors and hence to pay salleries.
                                    The time of Ambit has come and while it is still a useful watch it has lost some of its functions as I understand. But Ambit integration into SA is not entirely over afaik. For MC the communication was that the relevant features will remain, in my understanding: you will still be able to do app coding.
                                    If MC does not show any of the activities anymore, I would expect that it will be available in SA eventually.

                                    living sideways

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                                      freeheeler @chrish
                                      last edited by 24 Feb 2021, 20:10

                                      @chrish
                                      yes, I would expect that. But if so, with lower priority as only new watches generate money. (and happy customers that stay with Suunto)

                                      living sideways

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                                        Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                        last edited by 24 Feb 2021, 20:14

                                        @freeheeler

                                        You said “that companies need strategies to be able keeping up with the competitors”.
                                        That’s not true because there are different competitors brands with which you can make your own apps and upload the data as temporal graph registry, for example, Garmin.

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                                          chrish Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                          last edited by chrish 24 Feb 2021, 20:14

                                          @freeheeler

                                          yes and no. I sold my Spartan due to poor functionality onboard the watch as compared to the Ambit. Early releases of the Suunto App made that seem even worse, even though MC was still available and viable for the Spartan…it produced a lack of confidence in the entire platform. And I’ve yet to jump on the S9 due to the same reasons…eagerly awaiting POI management. That’s still in ‘beta’ on iOS, so I’m still waiting. But you don’t continue to make money on new watches if you dump on your customer base by managing transitions the way Suunto has over the last 2 years. Suunto would have gotten another $600-700 from me when the S9 dropped, but they didn’t. So they missed out on an entire cycle of upgrade potentially. Even w/ the 30% owner loyalty I’ve got sitting in my inbox, it might be too little to late to have made that money, I might wait for vNext from Suunto at this point.

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