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    freeheeler @Aleksander H
    last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 13:23

    @aleksander-h
    looks very “active”… first question could be: is it windy? then after either yes or no: how is the satellite reception, does the track show one spot or did it paint a nice mandala around your balcony?

    IMG-20210131-WA0002.jpg

    living sideways

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      Aleksander H Bronze Member @freeheeler
      last edited by Aleksander H 3 Oct 2021, 13:27 10 Mar 2021, 13:26

      @freeheeler Honestly not sure about the wind. I’d say “not much”, but I wasn’t paying that much attention to it. As for sattelite reception, I got a nice little square.

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      If you look at the activity on quantified-self, the movement seemed to take place at 2 places. Rest of the time it seems to know its not moving (if I’m interpreting this correct, no guarantees there).

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      [edit] I suppose I could find some field to go and sit in 😆

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        aeroild Bronze Member
        last edited by aeroild 3 Oct 2021, 13:44 10 Mar 2021, 13:43

        In my experience, the altimeter on the Suunto 7 works best when the watch is strapped to my wrist. And it also works very well (maybe even better) when I’m wearing it under a jacket.

        I think that the simple, but probably cost effective design (compared to the Suunto 9’s more sophisticated and costly design), with one hole in the watch case for the barometric sensor could mean that even the slightest wind can influence the altimeter. And when wearing it on my wrist my arm works as some sort of a wind shield.

        I have made tests where I walk 100 meter on a flat open space and then back to the starting point. First with the watch on my wrist and then holding the watch by the strap in my hand. On the wrist the watch only measured 1-2 meters ascent/descent. When holding the watch in my hand, it measured 30 meters ascent on a 100 meter walk. I will however do more tests before I conclude.

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          Aleksander H Bronze Member @aeroild
          last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 13:50

          @aeroild said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

          I have made tests where I walk 100 meter on a flat open space and then back to the starting point. First with the watch on my wrist and then holding the watch by the strap in my hand. On the wrist the watch only measured 1-2 meters ascent/descent. When holding the watch in my hand, it measured 30 meters ascent on a 100 meter walk. I will however do more tests before I conclude.

          Unfortunately no such thing as flat surfaces around here 😆 . Maybe I can put it in a box with holes in it on the balcony. That way it should shield it from wind 🤔

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            freeheeler @aeroild
            last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 13:59

            @aeroild
            that is a crazy weird observation…
            I think the S7 baro hole design is actually very good and in some cases even better than S9B.

            @Aleksander-H
            you mean “fortunately no flat areas” 😉
            I would expect the watch can filter gusts because of the recording interval and FusedAlti.

            living sideways

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              Mff73 @Aleksander H
              last edited by Mff73 3 Oct 2021, 14:10 10 Mar 2021, 14:09

              @aleksander-h
              your balcony altitude values doesn’t looks good and not coming from a baro sensor. are you sure you have a S7baro ? 😰
              or some wind during the test ?

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                aeroild Bronze Member @freeheeler
                last edited by aeroild 3 Oct 2021, 14:14 10 Mar 2021, 14:11

                @freeheeler I can assure you that I am not crazy 😉 Screenshot_20210310-143113.jpg

                On this screenshot the first walk to the turning point and back was with the watch on my left wrist. Then I shifted the watch to my right wrist and took the same walk. All the time with a stable altitude. Then I held the watch in my hand and that’s when the ascent starts. Then I put the watch back on my left wrist and you can see a sharp descent, then a slight ascent and then a stable altitude as I walked to the turning point and back. And finally I once again held the watch in my hand and walked and you can see another ascent.

                https://quantified-self.io/user/PnlTiZJzblYOwuY7qIAxWZNG3Za2/event/f696cdc3ff3be590dee3abae585e287ce4eee0e7f68d88ade72947d4a225b5f4

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                  Aleksander H Bronze Member @Mff73
                  last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 14:18

                  @mff73 said in Suunto 7 Altitude Issues:

                  @aleksander-h
                  your balcony altitude values doesn’t looks good and not coming from a baro sensor. are you sure you have a S7baro ? 😰
                  or some wind during the test ?

                  Doing a new test now with the watch in a box with ventilation holes. That should protect it from any wind.

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                    Aleksander H Bronze Member
                    last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 15:27

                    Still a bumpy ride it seems, despite protecting it from wind.

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                    https://quantified-self.io/user/DUrrVK0qMVZO5TtAP0r6Ox2HVLD2/event/41e635f7cf5a136c301ee66008445ff8a447b14f1afcdab6a2a6375cd5f602a5

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                      freeheeler @Aleksander H
                      last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 15:33

                      @aleksander-h
                      let me do some testing with my wife’s S7 and my S9B tonight. I’ll post it here

                      living sideways

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                        Aleksander H Bronze Member @freeheeler
                        last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 15:34

                        @freeheeler much appreciated 🙏

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                          aeroild Bronze Member @Aleksander H
                          last edited by aeroild 3 Oct 2021, 16:07 10 Mar 2021, 16:06

                          @aleksander-h I also tried to leave my Suunto 7 on the balcony for 15 minutes. It was quite windy outside 4-8 m/s. The correct altitude should be around 80 meters. I left the watch in a box without a lid. The result is very different from yours, but still just as bad.

                          balcony ascent.jpg

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                            Aleksander H Bronze Member @aeroild
                            last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 16:13

                            @aeroild I’d say yours is worse!

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                              aeroild Bronze Member @Aleksander H
                              last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 16:17

                              @aleksander-h Yeah, but the strange thing is that it worked well on my run earlier today.

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                                freeheeler @Aleksander H
                                last edited by freeheeler 3 Oct 2021, 17:00 10 Mar 2021, 16:58

                                @aleksander-h
                                this is what S7 and S9 did stationary on the balcony for 17 minutes.
                                S7 is red, S9 is green
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                                S7 is darker green, S9 is yellowish-green (Edit: I know from Dimitrios, that temperature drop can affect the altitude to some extend)
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                                living sideways

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                                  Aleksander H Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                  last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 17:18

                                  @freeheeler so the S7 stayed within 2 meters during those 17 min. Quite a bit better than mine then. I’ll test again tomorrow in case the weather was some how affecting things.

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                                    mikulass @isazi
                                    last edited by mikulass 3 Oct 2021, 20:54 10 Mar 2021, 20:44

                                    @isazi Hi, thanks for reply, app version is 2.1.0 (8785) on ios 12.5.1 iPhone 6… and 0m is on Trail Running, Walking or Trekking activities. Also It happened few days ago when I was walking uphill - S7 started to decrease altitude…I was up around 40+ m and on the watch was shown something like -18 m…

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                                      isazi Moderator @mikulass
                                      last edited by 10 Mar 2021, 20:59

                                      @mikulass the 0 meters issue will be fixed, from what we read today in the forum, with the next software update.

                                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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                                        mikulass @Aleksander H
                                        last edited by mikulass 3 Oct 2021, 21:16 10 Mar 2021, 21:13

                                        @aleksander-h Hi, thanks pointing the other thread, yes this is my case… and as @ISAZI pointed I see the graph 96375.jpg with ascent, but summary “table” shows Ascent 0m 43090.jpg …(apologize don’t know how to resize pictures in forum online editor)…

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                                          mikulass @isazi
                                          last edited by mikulass 3 Oct 2021, 21:22 10 Mar 2021, 21:19

                                          @isazi Hi, great thanks for info. It will be mobile app update or S7 sw update?

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