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    Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @isazi
    last edited by 25 Mar 2021, 17:40

    @isazi said in Adding Waypoints to Routes that Overlap:

    @nigel-taylor-0 try to, instead of importing the route in the app directly, send it via runalyze or quantified-self

    YAY!! THANK YOU!!! I don’t understand why that makes a difference, given the same GPX file source, but it does!

    Grabbed my two test files, dragged them onto QuantifiedSelf, and they are imported WITH POI’s.

    I think that solves one of my problems, in that I can now easily place POI’s “at the right place” on a route (difficult to do on the app where you have overlapping sections, plus I can just use the default automated directions as a starting point).

    Just got to verify for myself if these POI’s do only notify dependant on where in the route you are, or if they’re ‘punched through’ the entire route so will pop up if they’re on ‘shared sections’ 🙂

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Nigel Taylor 0
      last edited by 25 Mar 2021, 18:01

      @nigel-taylor-0 also as a workaround is before you reach the waypoint do a little free hand curve.

      The problem is when literally it’s only one line going back and forth.

      Also the route planning will improve. I am sure. Not sure how fast and when 😅

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        Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 25 Mar 2021, 18:11

        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Adding Waypoints to Routes that Overlap:

        @nigel-taylor-0 also as a workaround is before you reach the waypoint do a little free hand curve.

        The problem is when literally it’s only one line going back and forth.

        Also the route planning will improve. I am sure. Not sure how fast and when 😅

        Can’t wait for that last stuff…to be fair, the last update was utterly magical, and actually makes the S7 a better watch for me and what I do, than a Garmin 945 or a Coros Apex Pro, both of which I also own.

        I can work around most of the nav shortcomings through use of WayPoints - I can typically go out and run a half marathon on a planned route solely guided by Waypoint notifications - with only occasional checking of map.

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          Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 25 Mar 2021, 19:26

          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Adding Waypoints to Routes that Overlap:

          Also the route planning will improve. I am sure. Not sure how fast and when 😅

          Don’t worry. We’ll give you a couple of weeks to sort something out.

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            Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @isazi
            last edited by Nigel Taylor 0 25 Mar 2021, 21:16

            @isazi said in Adding Waypoints to Routes that Overlap:

            @nigel-taylor-0 try to, instead of importing the route in the app directly, send it via runalyze or quantified-self

            This tip needs to be added to the ‘first steps’ / ‘new user’ thread.

            I’m sure a lot of users land on S7 because of the mapping, being able to import routes with waypoints built in feels like a new bonus feature for me its so significant compared to what I was previously doing (drawing my routes in Plotaroute, xferring them and then adding Waypoints in SA).

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              isazi Moderator @Nigel Taylor 0
              last edited by 25 Mar 2021, 22:21

              @nigel-taylor-0 will do, probably tomorrow, ping me again if I don’t 🙂

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                sartoric Moderator
                last edited by 25 Mar 2021, 22:33

                just adding the link as a note (I don’t remember if I tested those cases again)
                https://forum.suunto.com/topic/4662/4-22-3-visual-bug-for-route-s-waypoint/11?_=1616711077559

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                  sartoric Moderator
                  last edited by 25 Mar 2021, 23:03

                  Just done a quick check and it seems those are still there.

                  Shouldn’t we move this to app section as it’s not really S7 issue ?

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                    Aleksander H Bronze Member @Nigel Taylor 0
                    last edited by Aleksander H 26 Mar 2021, 06:14

                    @nigel-taylor-0 said in Adding Waypoints to Routes that Overlap:

                    I’m sure a lot of users land on S7 because of the mapping, being able to import routes with waypoints built in feels like a new bonus feature for me […]

                    I had no idea I could do this!

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                      Tom Wehrle @Nigel Taylor 0
                      last edited by Tom Wehrle 27 Mar 2021, 20:59

                      @nigel-taylor-0
                      I’m really interested in how you got the POI’s to the Suunto 7! You’re mentioning some apps as ‘QuantifiedSelf’ and ‘Ploutaroute’ but as I’m new here I got never touched with those applications so far!

                      Please could you write us a short guide what we have to do in which application to get the POI’s imported to the Suunto 7. That would be great 🙂

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                        Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @Tom Wehrle
                        last edited by Nigel Taylor 0 27 Mar 2021, 21:46

                        @tom-wehrle said in Adding Waypoints to Routes that Overlap:

                        @nigel-taylor-0
                        I’m really interested in how you got the POI’s to the Suunto 7! You’re mentioning some apps as ‘QuantifiedSelf’ and ‘Ploutaroute’ but as I’m new here I got never touched with those applications so far!

                        Please could you write us a short guide what we have to do in which application to get the POI’s imported to the Suunto 7. That would be great 🙂

                        Presuming you’ve got your GPX file with waypoints exported from Plotaroute or Komoot or similar…having set yourself up on quantified self and linked to Suunto, from your dashboard… https://quantified-self.io/dashboard
                        …just click the hamburger menu, click on “services”, click Suunto, click the route icon (looks a bit like an S)…then drag your GPX in…a few seconds later that route will have synced to your Suunto App and include the Waypoints.
                        Very similar from https://runalyze.com/dashboard click the + menu and click activity sync. Then, assuming you have established a connection between Suunto and RunAlyze, the first of the icons by the Suunto service is for uploading routes.

                        hopefully that gets you looking in the right place…they’re not easy menu options to notice, but when you’ve done it once they’re obvious!

                        https://www.plotaroute.com/ just happens to be my preferred route plotting site, I find it to be the most versatile and powerful in terms of editing routes with some automation if desired but being able to manually control and reroute exactly as I want, and drop instruction waypoints where I want etc,…and I find the whole “management of routes” as really useful…newcomers might prefer Komoot which probably is a bit friendlier and easier to work with if just scratching the surface, but there’s a number of reasons it’s not my first choice.

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                          Tom Wehrle @Nigel Taylor 0
                          last edited by 30 Mar 2021, 19:25

                          @nigel-taylor-0 Thank you Nigel for those detailed instructions 🙂 !!!

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                            Jonathan Schwarz Bronze Member @Nigel Taylor 0
                            last edited by 31 Mar 2021, 05:11

                            @nigel-taylor-0 SO update - with the new update today, if you have komoot linked on your Suunto app (partner connections) - any “Tour”/route you create on komoot is AUTOMATICALLY synced to your Suunto app route list. All you have to do is enable “Use on Watch” and you are good to go.
                            Pretty slick.

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                              Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @Jonathan Schwarz
                              last edited by 31 Mar 2021, 11:57

                              @jonathan-schwarz said in Adding Waypoints to Routes that Overlap:

                              @nigel-taylor-0 SO update - with the new update today, if you have komoot linked on your Suunto app (partner connections) - any “Tour”/route you create on komoot is AUTOMATICALLY synced to your Suunto app route list. All you have to do is enable “Use on Watch” and you are good to go.
                              Pretty slick.

                              I think its been enabled since yesterday, I tried this but its nowhere near as useful as simply syncing routes created with Plotaroute (or other services) with personally made Waypoints for direction notifications.

                              Good if you want to use Komoot, and are happy with the excessive directions that they create!

                              I tried a 5k route yesterday via this process, it inserted TWENTY EIGHT instructions when it synced to SA, where I wouldn’t really need more than maybe 4 or so, if I just tagged the junctions…and of the instructions it created, I looked at a few of them and one was actually completely incorrect, suggesting a “U-Turn” when it should have been “Straight” (or actually just nothing!).

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