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    helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 14:17

    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Hi I´ll try indoor running tomorrow and running the day after. For info I always use external heart rate on these walks. I did not in the beginning and thought that the drop was due to HR spikes created from the watch therefor I started to monitor this and it was the same with external HR. I´ll get back with info tomorrow

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @helgonet12
      last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 14:22

      @helgonet12 thanks

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        zadow @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 17:01

        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I scrolled back in time thru my activities and found out that “Stretching” was also causing morning high resource drop .

        (Before I created activity to measure morning HRrest from “Other6” I was using “Stretching”)
        So it may be the same “day only” activity as Yoga, as you explained…

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          ChrisA Platinum Member @helgonet12
          last edited by 11 Mar 2021, 17:39

          @helgonet12 I had this too, see my post some months ago:

          https://forum.suunto.com/topic/5045/resources-drop-from-90-to-0

          Cheers Christian

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            SnusR
            last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 07:00

            good morning guys.

            What i also noticed is that if you do a reset on the watch (press upper button for x seconds) the ressource is automatically set to 50% after “reboot”.

            is this the expected behavior?

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @SnusR
              last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 07:04

              @snusr yes. That is expected as it looses it inner state. They will come up or down to their level shortly after.

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                helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 11:48

                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Hi! I used running app instead of walk and it did not have the same drop as before. I was out walking later today since I had to go to work earlier so I will try again tomorrow.

                I looked for indoor running but could not find it? do you mean treadmill? I have looked twice for indoor running but it is not there.

                There is also some wired behaviour when scrolling down the sports modes using the button down. after a while it start to scroll down buy it self really fast until it hits the last sportmode. It does not happen if using touch. I tried this I a couple of times and it was the same every time.
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                  helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by 15 Mar 2021, 07:46

                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Hi! I have during the weekend tried different activities like running, hiking and walking but it is the same on all. Hiking had the big drop as walking. The strange thing tough is that when I used running instead go walking this Saturday the resources worked fine. but today I used running instead of walking and I got the same big drop as walking (see picture) Skärmavbild 2021-03-15 kl. 08.40.23.png

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                    isazi Moderator
                    last edited by isazi 24 Mar 2021, 16:27

                    Just noticed the behavior this week because I decided to record my commute to work. Same huge drop in resources (today from more than 80 to 20) after a mellow 30 minutes bike ride.

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                      helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                      last edited by 1 Apr 2021, 08:46

                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Hi! Tested the walk activity today and same behaviour (big drop) happens on the new firmware 2.14.12.

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @helgonet12
                        last edited by 1 Apr 2021, 08:48

                        @helgonet12 yes this was not fixed in this FW. Walking will produce the same issue if there are HR inconsistencies.

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                          helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 1 Apr 2021, 08:56

                          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos ok. I thought so. Just wanted you to know 😀. Hoping it will come with the next update. Happy Easter 🐣 to you and everyone else in the forum.

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                            helgonet12 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 10:16

                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Hi. Any news about the fix for recourse drop on the S9B? It’s been a while since the first report of the issue. I know it is not the most important issue but still it should have been fixed I think during this time. Thanks.

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                              SuperFlo75 Silver Members Bronze Member
                              last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 19:55

                              I think I had the same ‚feature‘ with my S9PP same days ago… I started ‚Trailrunning‘ for a short time in the morning when I walked on the parking area in front of my work… I wanted to calibrate the altitude… about 30 second and a lost of resources from about 70% to 30%… I nearly couldn‘t stop laughing…

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                                A Former User @SuperFlo75
                                last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 12:58

                                https://forum.suunto.com/topic/7526/suunto-s-newest-watch-is-the-5-peak
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                                It’s a bug that was and is present in s5p, s9p and s9 with latest firmware, but there is a workaround.

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                                  helgonet12 @Guest
                                  last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 13:45

                                  @André-Faria thanks for the info but it doesn’t work. I have tried different resting heart rate values but with the same result. I also think that correct resting heart rate should work buy default and not to find a work around. It is something wrong with the algorithm. It worked just fine before 2021 but after an update the resource drops to zero or close to. And it only happens if you do an activity in the morning/ before lunch. If I don’t do an activity before lunch the resources works just fine.

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                                    A Former User @helgonet12
                                    last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 18:16

                                    @helgonet12 said in Resources - high drop after a walk:

                                    @André-Faria thanks for the info but it doesn’t work. I have tried different resting heart rate values but with the same result. I also think that correct resting heart rate should work buy default and not to find a work around. It is something wrong with the algorithm. It worked just fine before 2021 but after an update the resource drops to zero or close to. And it only happens if you do an activity in the morning/ before lunch. If I don’t do an activity before lunch the resources works just fine.

                                    Thanks for the info. May help Suunto debug the issue. But if not mistaken this algo was from first beat.

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                                      wakarimasen Silver Members
                                      last edited by wakarimasen 13 Apr 2023, 18:40

                                      This is one of the reasons I stopped using my 9PP for 24/7 tracking. My resources never seemed ‘correct’ and I would quite often be at zero after just a day at work.

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                                        helgonet12 @Guest
                                        last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 19:27

                                        @André-Faria if you want I can provide with more info. Let me know if it’s needed. 😀

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                                          A Former User @helgonet12
                                          last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 20:15

                                          @helgonet12 said in Resources - high drop after a walk:

                                          @André-Faria if you want I can provide with more info. Let me know if it’s needed. 😀

                                          I don’t , ambit 3 doesn’t have that hehe.
                                          When I had devices with that function I found annoying that behavior. 15min breathing or stretching in the morning was enough to drop resources.

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