Next S9 generation without map feature

Fenr1r

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos

ITs a western civil thing. right ?

So I gather (and Βικιπαίδεια “confirms”).

isazi

I guess it will be Suunto 888 for the Chinese speaking countries

Prenj

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Next S9 generation without map feature:

@prenj maps can be usable if they are like the s7 + heatmaps.

Zoom with pinch etc.

For hiking in the mountains I’d still prefer paper map in most cases to get an overview. Of course I wouldn’t object to having them in the watch

Aleksander H

@prenj said in Next S9 generation without map feature:

For hiking in the mountains I’d still prefer paper map in most cases to get an overview.

Map and compass should be considered essential regardless of the watches capabilities (depending on how well you know the area obviously).

zhang965

@fenr1r said in Next S9 generation without map feature:

@zhang965 Not to mention the triskaidekaphobia in some markets that precludes “13th” floors in buildings.

I think we should avoid 9 in German right?

“Would you suggest my a Suunto watch?”
“9”
“Why don’t you?”

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@zhang965 Suunto nein

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@zhang965 also Brooklyn nein nein

DMytro

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos first few seasons were fun

Brad_Olwin

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Next S9 generation without map feature:

@zhang965 also Brooklyn nein nein

That is such a funny show!

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@дима-мельниченко yeah at s5 I am starting to get a little picky

DMytro

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos I guess it’s hard to have new fresh ideas after some time, and 100 episodes is quite a bit.

A Former User

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Next S9 generation without map feature:

To my understanding it’s ok if the next s9 does not have maps. It’s the next S9 not an S11 or S13 or S7. When the time comes we can ask the same question.

I do use GPX tracks and SA App to build a route for S9 navigation very often, which is perfect for me.
If there are questions about maps sometimes, I always prefer my phone with bigger screen.
Which is in reach within 1 second in my trail vest…
So I think I would not use maps on watch…

A Former User

@frederick-rochette said in Next S9 generation without map feature:

As you can see in this video, the map feature is not planned for the next version of the S9…

I am very surprised to learn this because it is a feature I expected in the next S9. Am I alone?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vnK8GzI_jqs&fbclid=IwAR1dkyOzTxmOM7CftdPS7S31CjhgOan7wp1nHzZHSfDl9Ixq0kLP6A18hZA

I would rather prefer suunto to focus on “essential” (for me) things like sensors support, training load, structured workout than maps. And even on size, weight, confort.
As others said, on the fenix, it is not that awesome. Cool to have, but honestly, for me breadcrumb on the watch and good maps on phone/bike gps.

DMytro

I would prefer to have maps in my new watch. Main reason I bouth the current one was to be able to navigate with an active gps all the time without worrying about battery llife. I new from the start s9 could only do breadcrumb, but I didn’t like fenix 5+ at the time. I like how navigation works apart from the times there are multiple turns available - there the breadcrumb often fails as gps positioning in a forest or in a mountain valley isn’t always perfect which makes me guess and ofter go back from the false turn.
I’m not going to change the watch until I have to, but I hope by then there will be a map enabled suunto watch on the market with a decent battery life (ie not android wear).

Prenj

Would it be possible to have activity data synced to Suunto app during activity? I think it would be much more useful to have map on a bigger screen (offline available) with all the data from your watch (breadcrumb on the map, route, POI-s and all the stats).

I’d rather check the map on a phone screen than on my watch. Basic route, as we now have it on the watch is enough for me to quick glance that I’m on the right track, but if I want to see the bigger picture, I’d reach for the paper map in my case. But it would be pretty cool to utilize the larger phone screen for this. Even manual sync only when opening Suunto app would do.

We did have a “second screen” feature in Movescount app, but it didn’t use the whole phone screen.

I don’t know if any competitor have a similar feature but I’d find this highly valuable. What do you say?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@prenj I think s9 does support during activity route edit (as a hack). Meaning you can edit the route or create a new one, and sync it to the watch and re-select it or select a new one

Prenj

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos
I understand that. My suggestion was more for the live viewing your activity (or at least current location, breadcrumb, route and POI-s) in the Suunto app. That would be even better than having maps on the watch itself. In theory, as this syncing in the background is already possible, this could be done in Suunto app. No?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@prenj well it is possible to be done but it would require both devices to spend a significant amount of power more .

Prenj

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos Even with just manual sync only when you request it from the Suunto app on your phone? I don’t know if it’s possible to do just a partial sync with only current location and breadcrumb while route and poi-s are already there in the Suunto app.

Ok now I’m maybe leaning too much to the features interesting to those into hiking and similar activities involving navigation, but this would be a really useful feature in my opinion.

And for the impact on battery consumption, I guess it would be much smaller than with using the maps in the watch.

Fenr1r

@prenj If you’re choosing to see your position on the phone anyway, why not just use the phone’s GPS and the larger selection of fully downloadable (sometime higher-grade topo) maps available for other apps? Save battery on watch by leaving it alone on airplane mode?